Private Parking Solutions (London) Ltd - PCN with incorrect location

IndieGirl

Umkomaas said:

Can we see a Google Street View of the street and actual unloading stop?

in respect of POPLA - you didn't seem to have much trouble in putting together a winning one against ParkingEye in 2018. Not much has changed since then, and you can recap on the necessary appeal elements and how to phrase them in the NEWBIES FAQ Announcement, third post.

9 Matisse Rd - Google Maps

You are right - I was successful previously but different circs. I know, I know, they all amount to the same thing. Lost my confidence I guess. Thank you  

Jenni_D

So we have a parking bay, with a sign that says No Parking At Any Time, and next to that sign is another sign from another company giving a website address for booking a parking space - no, that's not at all contradictory. 🙄

And as it says No Parking At Any Time then it is impossible for any contractual charge to be levied - one cannot contract to do that which is forbidden - and private companies cannot impose penalties.

And the text size on the sign is small, so difficult to read thus any T&Cs cannot be clear and obvious.

And loading/unloading (dropping off a parcel) is not parking.

LOTS to go at here.  

IndieGirl

Jenni_D said:

So we have a parking bay, with a sign that says No Parking At Any Time, and next to that sign is another sign from another company giving a website address for booking a parking space - no, that's not at all contradictory. 🙄

And as it says No Parking At Any Time then it is impossible for any contractual charge to be levied - one cannot contract to do that which is forbidden - and private companies cannot impose penalties.

And the text size on the sign is small, so difficult to read thus any T&Cs cannot be clear and obvious.

And loading/unloading (dropping off a parcel) is not parking.

LOTS to go at here.  

You're a superstar - thank you so much

Fruitcake

IndieGirl said:

Umkomaas said:

Can we see a Google Street View of the street and actual unloading stop?

in respect of POPLA - you didn't seem to have much trouble in putting together a winning one against ParkingEye in 2018. Not much has changed since then, and you can recap on the necessary appeal elements and how to phrase them in the NEWBIES FAQ Announcement, third post.

9 Matisse Rd - Google Maps

You are right - I was successful previously but different circs. I know, I know, they all amount to the same thing. Lost my confidence I guess. Thank you  

If Matisse Road is privately owned, there are no entrance signs to state this is the case. The earliest warning signs at the beginning of the road say Parking Notice, Private Land. There is no mention of prohibitive parking restrictions until further down the road. 

The signs near the parcel depot are forbidding in nature, meaning there is no offer (to park) therefore there can be no acceptance of a contract to park. As already mentioned, you cannot agree to do something that is prohibitd.
In addition, any charge for breaching parking terms cannot be read since either the font is too small, or it is not actually there at all.
Getting your own photos (on foot) of the signs from say, a car length away would be useful to show that the signs cannot be read from the driver's perspective.

IndieGirl

Update:

Thank you all - went to a POPLA appeal and I was successful! I will post details on the POPLA thread.

Thanks again for all very helpful advice! 

yemiD

Congratulations on your successful appeal. I've got an ongoing appeal in the exact same place. Awaiting further response from them regarding my initial appeal. This is really encouraging though. If you could post your POPLA appeal, that would be great.

IndieGirl

yemiD said:

Congratulations on your successful appeal. I've got an ongoing appeal in the exact same place. Awaiting further response from them regarding my initial appeal. This is really encouraging though. If you could post your POPLA appeal, that would be great.

Done - happy to provide more info if useful

Guestuser001

Hi I have a parking ticket for the same place from same company, was there for a matter of minutes dropping a parcel off at royal mail. Please could you point me to your POPLA appeal I'm at that stage now please, assistance would be much appreciated thanks

Jenni_D

Her POPLA appeal wasn't posted, but this was her result feedback:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/79020989/#Comment_79020989

If you require assistance, please start your own thread.