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Holiday Entitlement


Can someone help in working out my son’s holiday entitlement.

He commenced a new job on 22/7/21

He works 20 hours a week.

His holiday year runs 1st Jan -31st Dec.

How many days holiday was he due for 2021?


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  • 74jax
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    How many holidays does he get a year? 
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  • MINIMUM statutory entitlement is 5.6 weeks.
    So he's entitled to 5.6 x 20 hours = 112 hours.
    How many days the 112 hours equals depends on whether he works, for example, 5 or 4 days a week.
    He will have been employed for just over 23 weeks to the end of this year.
    So 112 x 23/52 = 49.538 hours.
    They may say that he is entitled to 50 hours (they can't round down).
    If he works on Mondays and Tuesdays normally but didn't for August and Christmas, those normal hours come off the entitlement.  As would any Christmas week closedown.
  • Al_Ross
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    He works 5 hours on Mondays,Tuesdays,Thursdays and Fridays.
    His work was closed 25th Dec to 5th Jan.
  • Brie
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    So according to General_Grant he is entitled to approx 50 hours in this holiday year and if he works 5 hours a day then that's 10 days.  Aug & Dec BHs would account for 3 of those days - assuming he didn't work them which would leave 7 days left.  It sounds too like he would need to use another 2 days for this week due to work being closed this Thurs/Friday.  So if he hasn't taken any other holidays since he started he would have 5 days to carry forward - assuming that's allowed.  2 of these could cover the time closed next week.  

    His manager should have been encouraging him to either take days off as he went along OR inform him on the carry forward policy.  If he can't carry them forward then work will need to pay him for the holidays not used.

    @General_Grant why do you say hours can't be rounded down??  I would agree that it shouldn't go below 49 1/2 but the other fraction is just a few minutes which may be immaterial.

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  • General_Grant
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    edited 28 December 2021 at 4:00PM
    Al_Ross said:
    He works 5 hours on Mondays,Tuesdays,Thursdays and Fridays.
    His work was closed 25th Dec to 5th Jan.
    So you can work it out - 5 hours deducted from his holiday entitlement for the August bank holiday (if not worked) and every Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Friday between 27 and 31 December inclusive.

    He should have arranged to take the remaining days between his start date and Christmas.  If not, he could have lost those unless the employer agrees they can be carried forward or otherwise prevented his taking time off.

    How old is your son?  Taking this amount of time to find out his holiday entitlement just a few days before the end of the holiday year and when the workplace is closed is rather late in the day.


  • Al_Ross
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    He has had his payslip which is always up to the end of the month and it would appear he has not been paid for this week ,i.e ,Monday 27th,Tuesday 28th,Thurdsay 30th and Friday the 31st.
  • General_Grant
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    edited 28 December 2021 at 6:07PM
    Al_Ross said:
    He has had his payslip which is always up to the end of the month and it would appear he has not been paid for this week ,i.e ,Monday 27th,Tuesday 28th,Thurdsay 30th and Friday the 31st.
    In that case HE needs to get involved by asking his employer what is going on.

    He should check his written particulars of employment.  See if they are paying his holiday pay at the same time as his regular worked time. 
  • Brie
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    Al_Ross said:
    He has had his payslip which is always up to the end of the month and it would appear he has not been paid for this week ,i.e ,Monday 27th,Tuesday 28th,Thurdsay 30th and Friday the 31st.
    That makes is sound like he has already had his full holiday entitlement for the year and no one warned him that this would mean this week would not be paid.  Poor management.
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    Brie said:
    Al_Ross said:
    He has had his payslip which is always up to the end of the month and it would appear he has not been paid for this week ,i.e ,Monday 27th,Tuesday 28th,Thurdsay 30th and Friday the 31st.
    That makes is sound like he has already had his full holiday entitlement for the year and no one warned him that this would mean this week would not be paid.  Poor management.
    Yes but also poor employee! People do have to learn to take some responsibility for themselves too.

    A workplace is quite entitled to close on certain days (e.g Christmas) and require the staff to take the days as holiday. 
  • Al_Ross
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    Firstly, he will be straight in touch with his boss when his work reopens on the 5th of January.

    He mentioned it to me as he knows I use this forum.

    The week between Christmas and new years are part of his holiday entitlement that he should have been paid for, they are first deducted from his holiday sheet and the remainder days are what he has left.

     

    The company full holiday entitlement is either 32 or 33 days he can't remember.

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