DCBL Premier Parking Logistics

Paul_Downward

Good day all, i have been reading the threads, and read that if i cannot find my answer, there are some wise good people here that may be able to help.

The jist is relatively simple, I have recieved the N1, and now the track N180 forms.  I followed the advice, but simply I placed my defence on 2 facts.  1. I am unaware of the car park in question, so have no clue where it is, and secondly my car is used by a few people.  I am unsure but they sent 1 letter only prior to me getting the notice to claim from the Small Claims Court.  

I have read about the defence and witness statements, but non seem to relate to me not being the driver, i have not yet contacted the Claimant, and don't really want to as yet asking them for evidence, I am also not going to search for the car park in question. as this would make me knowledgable of its location.

I am aware that they have a legal right to ask for drivers details, but don't legally have to give them this information.  

Obviously the next stage will be to get the summons and notification of court dates

The ticket is for the period June 2020.  I have no knowledge of the location of the car park in question, I am unaware of who the driver was.

Your thoughts would be great.

Umkomaas

I followed the advice, but simply I placed my defence on 2 facts.  1. I am unaware of the car park in question, so have no clue where it is, and secondly my car is used by a few people. 

Is that what you've already sent to the Northampton CCBC?  If so, the Defence template is of no assistance to you, too late. 

The next stage will be the DQ, so you'll need to pick things up then and follow meticulously the guidance and steps given in the NEWBIES FAQ Announcement, second post.

Paul_Downward

Yes that is what has been said....

D_P_Dance

Have they added any unlawful amounts, e.g, £60 for debt collection?  Have you complained to your MP? 

Paul_Downward

I have not noticed the amount, but will check,  and will complain when the by election is over....

95Rollers

I would make the MP and also the court when you get to Witness Statement stage of the deliberately misleading terms on their website "Appeals" section:

https://premierparkinglogistics.com/appeals

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Photographic Evidence:

Offenders should note before making an appeal that all vehicles are photographed by digital camera, which is date and time-stamped showing the offence committed.

Photographs are for internal use only and they will only be passed over to a specialist debt collection agency and used as prosecuting evidence in any court case against you

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Does he have special accreditation that allows him to 'prosecute' for civil matters- how is somebody who is implicated in a civil matter an "Offender"!?!

He is using deliberately misleading legal terms, is lying about his "inhouse legal team" amongst the dross he has put on here. Make sure you screenshot it as evidence of Unreasonable Behaviour.

He also admits to partaking in the practise of double recovery by adding unlawful extras.  

"...for parking charges not paid and referred for legal collection the charge increases to £160 or more to cover additional administrative expenses to enforce the debt plus legal costs (these are clearly defined at the time the contract is made)."

This may be written in micro small print on a hidden/ unreadable/ poorly lit sigh- but it's still unlawful so his "inhouse legal experts" aren't that clued up because "debt recovery " costs him nothing as he uses DCBL no win no fee service so this is another lie!

Make sure you screenshot this. I've reported to Trading Standards on their online portal- but don't expect much from it.

There's also all that gaslighting guff about "armchair lawyers". Funnily enough its these very same soapboxers who mash down his "legal experts" in court most days!!! 😆 

Redx

There won't be any summons , it's not a criminal matter !

We have scores of defences that say keeper but not Driver in paragraph 2

The SAR to the DPO at the PPC ( PPL ) is a good idea , please do so

95Rollers

I wouldn't be surprised if PPLs paperwork has the word "summons" on it as the paragraphs i posted above from thre Appeals section on his website uses terms like "offenders" and "prosecuting" etc! 

Paul_Downward

Redx said:

There won't be any summons , it's not a criminal matter !

We have scores of defences that say keeper but not Driver in paragraph 2

The SAR to the DPO at the PPC ( PPL ) is a good idea , please do so

Redx, thank you, but not sure if i am being particularly stupid, but i cannot find this Para 2 you refer to....

Redx

Paul_Downward said:

Redx said:

There won't be any summons , it's not a criminal matter !

We have scores of defences that say keeper but not Driver in paragraph 2

The SAR to the DPO at the PPC ( PPL ) is a good idea , please do so

Redx, thank you, but not sure if i am being particularly stupid, but i cannot find this Para 2 you refer to....

Paragraph 2 is in the defence template post by coupon mad in announcements at the top of the forum

The keeper but not the driver argument has been used dozens of times on here in other defences , here is just one example , but there are many more on here

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6271137/advice-on-court-defence-submission-highview-parking-ltd#latest

PS , use a laptop not a phone when researching this forum