PCN on Private Land

Smegal2020

Coupon-mad said:

I am 'matey' to people on this forum I suppose but I am a lady!

whoopsie i do apologise, didnt mean to cause any offence myself and i am sure many others very much appreciate your knowledge and help in these matters.

Smegal2020

Fruitcake said:

Please show us the reverse of the PCN, but on the face of it, the NTK appears to be non-PoFA compliant therefore the keeper cannot be held liable.

Did the driver leave the site? That is what the NTK suggests as the reason for issuing the charge, not for an overstay or exceeding grace periods.

The bent sign seems to have different Ts and Cs to the undamaged one.

What happened when the keeper complained to the landowner?

Yes driver im informed did leave the site but only for “8 minutes 55 seconds” after closer inspection, the bent sign indeed does have different t&cs well spotted fruitcake, the first line that reads “ Parking only whilst on premises” is not on it compared to the undamaged one. 

Still awaiting a response from landowner from complaint made to the company customer service email address found online.

D_P_Dance

Yes driver im informed did leave the site

But what about the passengers?

Smegal2020

Credit to Fruitcake for noticing the discrepancy within the 2 signs, i did another sight visit today and sure enough the 2 signs are different. The bent one has “parking for patrons only” missing or rubbed out. This should be another point to highlighing misleading signage  in my popla appeal.

D_P_Dance

Signs too high?  Too much small print?  Read this

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5972164/parking-eye-signs-oxford-road-reading/p1 

Fruitcake

Use the image of whichever sign best supports your case.

Section 69 of the Consumer Rights Act 2015 says,

69 Contract terms that may have different meanings
(1) If a term in a consumer contract, or a consumer notice, could have different meanings, the meaning that is most favourable to the consumer is to prevail.

Smegal2020

PCN UPDATE 

Hi everyone just want to say a big thank you for everyones help with my PCN. After complaing to landowner he cancelled my PCN.
 
Have a good christmas everyone and a happy new year.

Coupon-mad

Great news.  What a crappy load of signs are there. 

Imagine doing what the more predatory PPCs like that do for a living.

Le_Kirk

Excellent - Plan A strikes again - and thanks for letting us know.

Umkomaas

Which goon screwed the sign to overlap the door to the premises?  Small wonder it's been bent, it must have been scraping the heads a number of people going in and out!

Anyway, very good result, nice landowner cancellation - the best. 👍