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Bond funds still working

There’s been much debate on the death of bonds as a safe haven, my bond investment returned to profit overnight. Shall cash out my 9p profit now? 

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  • GeoffTF
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    Vanguard still believes in bonds:

    https://www.vanguardinvestor.co.uk/articles/latest-thoughts/investing-success/bond-investing-myths-avoid-interest-rates-rise

    The ETF versions VAGP and VAGS have lower costs but hold fewer bonds. The accumulation version VAGS has a wider market spread.
  • masonic
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    And reinvest the proceeds in what?
  • MX5huggy
    MX5huggy Posts: 7,173 Forumite
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    masonic said:
    And reinvest the proceeds in what?
    A large McFlurry, I’m up £1.59. 
  • masonic
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    MX5huggy said:
    masonic said:
    And reinvest the proceeds in what?
    A large McFlurry, I’m up £1.59. 
    Yes, treat yourself, I think you've earned it.
  • Alexland
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    MX5huggy said:
    A large McFlurry, I’m up £1.59. 
    Smarties ones are best value - have one every week while waiting for our eldest to complete his karate lesson and tapping away on my phone posting here. Maybe I should buy exactly enough of an income fund to pay for that regular night out?
  • Thrugelmir
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    Government Bonds will continue to remain a safe haven. One just needs to understand the mechanics and the potential returns. 
  • GeoffTF
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    Government Bonds will continue to remain a safe haven. One just needs to understand the mechanics and the potential returns. 
    We know what the returns will be: miserable. Conventional gilts could give a big real return if there is massive deflation. Index linked gilts could give a big nominal return if there is massive inflation. Neither would be a happy outcome. Bond returns will be miserable, but equity returns could be a great deal worse.
  • Thrugelmir
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    GeoffTF said:
    Government Bonds will continue to remain a safe haven. One just needs to understand the mechanics and the potential returns. 
    We know what the returns will be: miserable. Conventional gilts could give a big real return if there is massive deflation. Index linked gilts could give a big nominal return if there is massive inflation. Neither would be a happy outcome. Bond returns will be miserable, but equity returns could be a great deal worse.
    After an exceptional period of returns. Would be no surprise for investing to become dull and boring for a while. 
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