Replacing cylinder on front door

ChilliBob

I'm getting a bit ahead of myself, but we're hoping to complete on a new house in early December, I figure changing the locks is a good idea.

Besides being a 'fairly modern' looking door, fitted around 12 years ago I don't know much more!

I was considering buying Deal: Yale P-YS3-3535NT Anti-Snap 3 Star Euro Tumbturn Cylinder, High Security, 35:35 (70mm), Nickel Finish https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01MTEGOYH/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_dl_19V2B7X3MSEM2X6A0JKV?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 since its free returns and even cheaper than tool station...

However, reading reviews there is all this stuff about 'dimples' causing grief and needing to file of fit out inner parts of the door!

Any thoughts much appreciated, I feel it'd be good to have at least one option likely to fit before we complete

Norman_Castle

The dimples are unusual and confused Amazon buyers. Video on the Amazon page shows how to fit it. Don't buy a lock until you know the exact size you need which presumably won't be until after you've bought the property.

Ectophile

If it's a "eurolock" then they are all a standard design and interchangeable.  Except that you need to check the two lengths of the lock, from the fixing screw to each end.  Doors come in different thicknesses.

If the lock's too short, it won't fit.  You also don't one that's too long on the outside, as it provides a weak point for people to attack and break the lock off.  Too long on the inside isn't so bad.

Other than that, locks come from cheap and easily picked, to high security.

fenwick458

nobody picks these locks anymore they just drill them if they want in, and it's not hard on either type of cylinder

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fenwick458 said:

nobody picks these locks anymore they just drill them if they want in, and it's not hard on either type of cylinder

Yes it’s too time consuming now locks are more advanced. Nowadays they try to either snap them, knock them through the door or go round and get through a back window. Had to use a locksmith once to gain entry to my house after the lock failing. I was amazed at just how quick he got the door open using tools that can be bought on Amazon!

neilmcl

If you want a good lock have a look at Ultion locks and cylinders.

ChilliBob

neilmcl said:

If you want a good lock have a look at Ultion locks and cylinders.

Thanks, that's actually what we have on our door now. Seems a bit more involved to get hold of though, I'll look into it 

ChilliBob

Norman_Castle said:

The dimples are unusual and confused Amazon buyers. Video on the Amazon page shows how to fit it. Don't buy a lock until you know the exact size you need which presumably won't be until after you've bought the property.

Yeah, I was only looking to buy this one as it had free returns, and *might* fit - best case it does and I can change on day one, worst case I have to return and find another. Its just this dimples business! I'll check out the video! 

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It will fit if it is the same shape as the one currently in place but it will fit incorrectly if it is the wrong one for the door and will end up too short or too long. The dimples stop the lock being hammered through the door as they snag onto the internal framework of the door. They can make installation a little more tricky but provide more security in the long run.

I have tested removing both cheap and more expensive anti snap locks like the one listed out of interest. The cheap lock was snapped in half in seconds using use a hammer and mole grips. It put up little defence. The second one put up more of a fight and resisted hammering, knocking and drilling for quite some time until I gave up as I would have damaged the lock too much to remove it from the door when I got bored. 

ChilliBob

Thanks for the additional insight, it's difficult to do much before we move I guess. I just wanted to do my research first so I could procure something rapid! Will check the video, we exchanged yesterday, finally

seatbeltnoob

I am paranoid about buying lovlcks online. I get a friend to buy it for me and I pay them. In case someone at the retailer is recording key codes and storing them somewhere.