I want to cancel a group booking, but my group doesn't want to

Ergates

Manxman_in_exile said:

I think I'd be far too embarrassed to even consider the possibility of causing them problems by letting them down and cancelling the whole thing.  If I couldn't find somebody who they were happy with to replace me - and I'd consider that to be primarily my responsibility although if the others  found a replacement for me it would be a bonus - then I'd either write the money off as a loss or just bite the bullet and go to the festival.)

I'd agree with that if the OP was wanting to cancel the same year the tickets were booked.  But that was 2 years ago and the event has been cancelled and rearranged twice now.  The world has moved on, people should understand that the circumstances now are not the same as they were when the tickets were purchased.

JGB1955

Ergates said:

I'd agree with that if the OP was wanting to cancel the same year the tickets were booked.  But that was 2 years ago and the event has been cancelled and rearranged twice now.  The world has moved on, people should understand that the circumstances now are not the same as they were when the tickets were purchased.

But why should the other 3 suffer because one person has 'changed their mind'?

Manxman_in_exile

TELLIT01 said:

adbacus said:

IvanOpinion said:

I would approach it a different way.  Tell your ex-friends that they are free to find someone else to take your place and give you your money back (or at least a significant portion of it - say £200).  If they have not done that by the time of the festival then tell them you will be going. 

Whether or not you go is up to you, but at least they can't offer one of their other friends the space without you getting a refund of some sort.

This is actually really good. I haven't had a clear mind on the issue, and this actually makes a lot of sense.

That does look like a good way to apply pressure on them, and really about the only pressure they can apply.  As they didn't make the booking they can't sell on 1/4 of the booking.

Didn't they?  I agree the OP originally said that they (the OP) had "secured" the tickets, but then the OP said:

adbacus said:

TELLIT01 said:

Ergates said:

Your ex-friends *should* either agree to cancel or pay you your share, and the way they're behaving is selfish.

What we don't know is why the OP is no longer friends with the people he/she was to go with.  If the OP is at fault for the breakdown in the relationship the others may be using this as an opportunity for payback.

It also shows the importance of having formalised arrangements, even between friends, for what will happen if one or more members of the group booking can't go or no longer wish to go.

I appreciate that; unfortunately the person who made the booking has behaved towards me in such a way, I feel uncomfortable around them, insecure and I don't trust them anymore.

...

So not only is the OP generally unreliable, but they can't get the facts straight... 

Manxman_in_exile

JGB1955 said:

Ergates said:

I'd agree with that if the OP was wanting to cancel the same year the tickets were booked.  But that was 2 years ago and the event has been cancelled and rearranged twice now.  The world has moved on, people should understand that the circumstances now are not the same as they were when the tickets were purchased.

But why should the other 3 suffer because one person has 'changed their mind'?

Absolutely!

Manxman_in_exile

I think if I was one of the OP's ex-mates I'd desperately be looking for a replacement!  Anyone... 

Thrugelmir

Manxman_in_exile said:

I think if I was one of the OP's ex-mates I'd desperately be looking for a replacement!  Anyone... 

Is it still possible to obtain a festival ticket though. Or is the booking locked in as the named party. I can understand the reluctance not to miss a once in a lifetime event. Nor are they benefitting from paying more. Just one of those situations in life where you have to take it on the chin and move on. As there's no resolution that's acceptable to everyone. 

Alderbank

Manxman_in_exile said:

TELLIT01 said:

adbacus said:

IvanOpinion said:

I would approach it a different way.  Tell your ex-friends that they are free to find someone else to take your place and give you your money back (or at least a significant portion of it - say £200).  If they have not done that by the time of the festival then tell them you will be going. 

Whether or not you go is up to you, but at least they can't offer one of their other friends the space without you getting a refund of some sort.

This is actually really good. I haven't had a clear mind on the issue, and this actually makes a lot of sense.

That does look like a good way to apply pressure on them, and really about the only pressure they can apply.  As they didn't make the booking they can't sell on 1/4 of the booking.

Didn't they?  I agree the OP originally said that they (the OP) had "secured" the tickets, but then the OP said:

adbacus said:

TELLIT01 said:

Ergates said:

Your ex-friends *should* either agree to cancel or pay you your share, and the way they're behaving is selfish.

What we don't know is why the OP is no longer friends with the people he/she was to go with.  If the OP is at fault for the breakdown in the relationship the others may be using this as an opportunity for payback.

It also shows the importance of having formalised arrangements, even between friends, for what will happen if one or more members of the group booking can't go or no longer wish to go.

I appreciate that; unfortunately the person who made the booking has behaved towards me in such a way, I feel uncomfortable around them, insecure and I don't trust them anymore.

...

So not only is the OP generally unreliable, but they can't get the facts straight... 

The way that Glasto works is:

• first each party member registers with photo and ID and buys an entry ticket. You can't buy for a group, each person must register individually.
• the 'lead booker' can then book a tent. He has to give the registration of each group member, which will be printed on the ticket.
• no transfers or substitutions are permitted.
• On arrival at site only the lead booker can take possession of the pre-erected tent using the accommodation ticket. No other group member can do this.

'roll-over' bookings from previous years can't be changed but can be cancelled by the lead booker without charge until the end of December. That ticket will be then available for someone else to book
Tickets can't be sold or changed. They can only be cancelled. Site entry and security are very tightly managed.

So there are two sets of bookings. The OP, along with the others, will have individually bought an entry ticket (which he can now cancel). Another group member has then bought the accommodation booking for the group, giving the individual reg. numbers of each group member.

The pre-erected campsite terms and conditions are here:
https://www.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk/information/accommodation/pre-erected-camping/pre-erected-campsite-terms-and-conditions/

elsien

So can the ex-friends give a place in the tent to someone who already has a ticket? 

It’s not very likely that they’re going to be able to find a replacement in the circumstances then, even if they were willing to.
OP looks like you’re just going to have to take the hit on the tent, given that you didn’t book it so can’t cancel it, and you’re the one whose changed your mind. 

TELLIT01

Manxman_in_exile said:

TELLIT01 said:

adbacus said:

IvanOpinion said:

I would approach it a different way.  Tell your ex-friends that they are free to find someone else to take your place and give you your money back (or at least a significant portion of it - say £200).  If they have not done that by the time of the festival then tell them you will be going. 

Whether or not you go is up to you, but at least they can't offer one of their other friends the space without you getting a refund of some sort.

This is actually really good. I haven't had a clear mind on the issue, and this actually makes a lot of sense.

That does look like a good way to apply pressure on them, and really about the only pressure they can apply.  As they didn't make the booking they can't sell on 1/4 of the booking.

Didn't they?  I agree the OP originally said that they (the OP) had "secured" the tickets, but then the OP said:

adbacus said:

TELLIT01 said:

Ergates said:

Your ex-friends *should* either agree to cancel or pay you your share, and the way they're behaving is selfish.

What we don't know is why the OP is no longer friends with the people he/she was to go with.  If the OP is at fault for the breakdown in the relationship the others may be using this as an opportunity for payback.

It also shows the importance of having formalised arrangements, even between friends, for what will happen if one or more members of the group booking can't go or no longer wish to go.

I appreciate that; unfortunately the person who made the booking has behaved towards me in such a way, I feel uncomfortable around them, insecure and I don't trust them anymore.

...

So not only is the OP generally unreliable, but they can't get the facts straight... 

Well spotted Manxman.  I had missed the fact that initially the OP had made the booking, and then it changed to one of the others.

Ergates

TELLIT01 said:

Manxman_in_exile said:

TELLIT01 said:

adbacus said:

IvanOpinion said:

I would approach it a different way.  Tell your ex-friends that they are free to find someone else to take your place and give you your money back (or at least a significant portion of it - say £200).  If they have not done that by the time of the festival then tell them you will be going. 

Whether or not you go is up to you, but at least they can't offer one of their other friends the space without you getting a refund of some sort.

This is actually really good. I haven't had a clear mind on the issue, and this actually makes a lot of sense.

That does look like a good way to apply pressure on them, and really about the only pressure they can apply.  As they didn't make the booking they can't sell on 1/4 of the booking.

Didn't they?  I agree the OP originally said that they (the OP) had "secured" the tickets, but then the OP said:

adbacus said:

TELLIT01 said:

Ergates said:

Your ex-friends *should* either agree to cancel or pay you your share, and the way they're behaving is selfish.

What we don't know is why the OP is no longer friends with the people he/she was to go with.  If the OP is at fault for the breakdown in the relationship the others may be using this as an opportunity for payback.

It also shows the importance of having formalised arrangements, even between friends, for what will happen if one or more members of the group booking can't go or no longer wish to go.

I appreciate that; unfortunately the person who made the booking has behaved towards me in such a way, I feel uncomfortable around them, insecure and I don't trust them anymore.

...

So not only is the OP generally unreliable, but they can't get the facts straight... 

Well spotted Manxman.  I had missed the fact that initially the OP had made the booking, and then it changed to one of the others.

Except Alderman has explained above how the bookings work:  The OP booked their own entry ticket, one of the others booked the tent.   It is the tent that is in dispute, not the entry ticket as that is within the OP's remit to cancel.