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GDB2222

Insulation added. You mean cladding. 

YoungBlueEyes

Eddddy has said what I was thinking - does infilled land next door necessarily mean the church….? What else is around that block?

eddddy

eddddy said:

That building looked like thick external insulation had been added recently - which is why it's hard to date by looking at it.

GDB2222 said:

Insulation added. You mean cladding. 

Well.... I just found the planning application for that building in 2014 for "Installation of external wall insulation with associated extension of gas flues and rainwater goods".



FWIW, it looks like the insulation was installed by a company called Eden Facades (https://edenfacades.co.uk/), and the insulation product they used was called Epsitherm 70 with silicone render.

I've no idea if that is good or bad.

But it's probably something that needs investigating.

 

Lunchbox

clive0510 said:

IF They talking about the graves as infilled land, then I wouldn't worry. If you dig a six ft deep hole and don't fill it in, then yes the land could be become unstable. but as all the graves have been filled in,(hopefully!), I suspect many years ago, the ground will of had ample time to find its own level and settle down.

Churches with Victorian burials often have single-skin brick lined burial vaults or brick lined graves that aren’t backfilled. The vaults can be 10-15ft deep and 8ft wide, and sometimes in terrible structural condition.

MovingForwards

@AskAsk you may want to remove the link from your quote.

Lunchbox

AskAsk said:

Lunchbox said:

clive0510 said:

IF They talking about the graves as infilled land, then I wouldn't worry. If you dig a six ft deep hole and don't fill it in, then yes the land could be become unstable. but as all the graves have been filled in,(hopefully!), I suspect many years ago, the ground will of had ample time to find its own level and settle down.

Churches with Victorian burials often have single-skin brick lined burial vaults or brick lined graves that aren’t backfilled. The vaults can be 10-15ft deep and 8ft wide, and sometimes in terrible structural condition.

this would make more sense as the infilled land covers the whole church and its surrounding grounds as i mentioned earlier.  it must be these vaults that had been filled in over time i guess.

Having identified the property and looking at historic maps, there were very extensive lime works and chalk pits in the area (although not directly adjacent); I suspect these are far more likely to be what’s been flagged.

AskAsk

Lunchbox said:

AskAsk said:

Lunchbox said:

clive0510 said:

IF They talking about the graves as infilled land, then I wouldn't worry. If you dig a six ft deep hole and don't fill it in, then yes the land could be become unstable. but as all the graves have been filled in,(hopefully!), I suspect many years ago, the ground will of had ample time to find its own level and settle down.

Churches with Victorian burials often have single-skin brick lined burial vaults or brick lined graves that aren’t backfilled. The vaults can be 10-15ft deep and 8ft wide, and sometimes in terrible structural condition.

this would make more sense as the infilled land covers the whole church and its surrounding grounds as i mentioned earlier.  it must be these vaults that had been filled in over time i guess.

Having identified the property and looking at historic maps, there were very extensive lime works and chalk pits in the area (although not directly adjacent); I suspect these are far more likely to be what’s been flagged.

yeah, the report identified these and their distance to the property and they are not the church next door as they are further away.  the nearest is 96m from the property.

i read the report again and it states that the ground instability is the grave yard next door, which was dated 1870.  i think i had read this before and couldn't understand why a graveyard next door would cause instability but if you say they used to dig the chambers really cheap, it would make sense.

i think that has solved the mystery 

Lunchbox

They did, and they’re likely still ‘chambers’ rather than filled (the ones that haven’t already internally collapsed), and probably structurally unstable as there tends to be no funding to maintain them. I suspect they’re unlikely to pose any risk to an adjacent property unless they were virtually on top of them, and hopefully it’s just an overly cautious statement.