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Requesting a receipt decline

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  • TELLIT01
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    hansen666 said:
    user1977 said:
    hansen666 said:
    comeandgo said:
    Has he given you an invoice?  A receipt only shows you have paid, it’s an invoice you need.
    No he hasn't, should he legally have to give me one? if not I guess I will just have to keep the texts and hope they are enough in case something goes wrong?
    No, there's no general right to an invoice.

    If you wanted better evidence of payment, you should have used a method other than cash (why did you decide to pay in cash?).

    He said he would knock a few hundred off the price if I paid in cash, do you think texts would be enough evidence if I had to go to court in case of an issue?

    They show the price and the work he offered to do, along with the date he is going to do it.

    He knocked a few hundred quid off a cash transaction by not putting the payment through his books, thereby avoiding paying any form of tax on that income.  I'm not surprised he is now refusing to provide any evidence of the transaction.
  • winsoc
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    Cash being legal tender, OP's consumer rights aren't waived by using it are they?

    Everyone here moralising like OP has singlehandedly masterminded some billionaire's tax evasion scheme.
  • user1977
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    edited 27 October 2021 at 2:03PM
    winsoc said:
    Cash being legal tender, OP's consumer rights aren't waived by using it are they?
    No, but there's (so far) no breach of their consumer rights anyway. And whether a method of payment happens to be legal tender isn't relevant here.
  • jon81uk
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    winsoc said:
    Cash being legal tender, OP's consumer rights aren't waived by using it are they?


    What consumer rights have been waived?

    Also there is no requirement for anyone to "legal tender" except to settle court debt.
    What is legal tender? | Bank of England
  • Undervalued
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    winsoc said:


    Everyone here moralising like OP has singlehandedly masterminded some billionaire's tax evasion scheme.
    Nonsense!

    They are just pointing out that not getting a receipt is a fairly obvious consequence of "paying a few hundred less for cash"!
  • user1977 said:
    winsoc said:
    Cash being legal tender, OP's consumer rights aren't waived by using it are they?
    No, but there's (so far) no breach of their consumer rights anyway. And whether a method of payment happens to be legal tender isn't relevant here.
    Worth a note that, assuming a distant contract, I doubt the trader has complied with the requirement to provide the durable information required, but if you are going to pay "cash" you can't really expect to rely on consumer rights. 
    In the game of chess you can never let your adversary see your pieces
  • mikb
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    hansen666 said:
    user1977 said:
    hansen666 said:
    comeandgo said:
    Has he given you an invoice?  A receipt only shows you have paid, it’s an invoice you need.
    No he hasn't, should he legally have to give me one? if not I guess I will just have to keep the texts and hope they are enough in case something goes wrong?
    No, there's no general right to an invoice.

    If you wanted better evidence of payment, you should have used a method other than cash (why did you decide to pay in cash?).

    He said he would knock a few hundred off the price if I paid in cash, do you think texts would be enough evidence if I had to go to court in case of an issue?

    They show the price and the work he offered to do, along with the date he is going to do it.
    He has said he would knock a few hundred off for cash because he is going to commit tax evasion, of course he will not give you any documentary evidence of his tax fraud.
    More to the point, what would the OP be thinking of "taking to court?" in this situation. Just think how that conversation will go. "Well, your worship/honour/highness, I was engaging in colluding in a tax evasion scheme when my consumer rights were infringed ..." :)
  • Alderbank
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    edited 27 October 2021 at 5:29PM
    Worth a note that, assuming a distant contract...
    Since this is about passing wodges of cash from hand to hand for work in the back garden that's quite an assumption!
  • Alderbank said:
    Worth a note that, assuming a distant contract...
    Since this is about passing wodges of cash from hand to hand for work in the back garden that's quite an assumption!
    I should have said off-premises rather than distance. 

    How the payment is made wouldn't define the type of contract. 

    Unless the OP walked into the trader's place of business uninvited it would very likely be off-premises. 
    In the game of chess you can never let your adversary see your pieces
  • winsoc said:
    Cash being legal tender, OP's consumer rights aren't waived by using it are they?

    Everyone here moralising like OP has singlehandedly masterminded some billionaire's tax evasion scheme.
    No, but it's blindingly obvious that taking less 'for cash' means it's off the books, which obviously means no receipt etc. 
    It's very, very simple. 
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