Can someone please help me understand my rate of pay

robdex1

I work for a company as a self employed driver that does on deman grocery deliveries. The company have recently been bought out and in my new training video it says this about our pay (I have attached the image below)

I'm not quite sure what this means. Will I be being paid the £1.33 holiday in my hourly wage. Does it mean it is to cover holiday as we don't get paid for time off I don't think. I'm not really sure what £1.33 holiday pay means. The job is currently self employed so we sort out tax and national insurance.

I'm going to ask my manager but he is away so just thought someone might be able to shed some light on what the holiday pay means

General_Grant

robdex1 said:

I work for a company as a self employed driver that does on deman grocery deliveries. The company have recently been bought out and in my new training video it says this about our pay (I have attached the image below)

I'm not quite sure what this means. Will I be being paid the £1.33 holiday in my hourly wage. Does it mean it is to cover holiday as we don't get paid for time off I don't think. I'm not really sure what £1.33 holiday pay means. The job is currently self employed so we sort out tax and national insurance.

I'm going to ask my manager but he is away so just thought someone might be able to shed some light on what the holiday pay means

So you are now employed rather than self-employed.  At least you are a worker and the employer should be paying employers NI as well as deducting tax and NI.
(I wonder how the rate compares to when you were self-employed.)

Your basic rate of pay is £11 and the £1.33 represents payment for the statutory paid leave to which you would be entitled.  They appear to propose paying you £12.33 with the holiday pay rolled up into it.  (Technically they should show the holiday pay as a separate line on your payslip  but perhaps there is little point in challenging that.)

custardy

They are paying you holiday pay as part of your wage  rather than paying you when on holiday.
So when you take your holiday you will be on £0 pay

robdex1

General_Grant said:

robdex1 said:

I work for a company as a self employed driver that does on deman grocery deliveries. The company have recently been bought out and in my new training video it says this about our pay (I have attached the image below)

I'm not quite sure what this means. Will I be being paid the £1.33 holiday in my hourly wage. Does it mean it is to cover holiday as we don't get paid for time off I don't think. I'm not really sure what £1.33 holiday pay means. The job is currently self employed so we sort out tax and national insurance.

I'm going to ask my manager but he is away so just thought someone might be able to shed some light on what the holiday pay means

So you are now employed rather than self-employed.  At least you are a worker and the employer should be paying employers NI as well as deducting tax and NI.
(I wonder how the rate compares to when you were self-employed.)

Your basic rate of pay is £11 and the £1.33 represents payment for the statutory paid leave to which you would be entitled.  They appear to propose paying you £12.33 with the holiday pay rolled up into it.  (Technically they should show the holiday pay as a separate line on your payslip  but perhaps there is little point in challenging that.)

My pay before was £10 an hour so this is a decent increase. So my hourly rate will be £12.33 an hour? And I just want get paid anything when I take holiday. 

Marcon

robdex1 said:

General_Grant said:

robdex1 said:

I work for a company as a self employed driver that does on deman grocery deliveries. The company have recently been bought out and in my new training video it says this about our pay (I have attached the image below)

I'm not quite sure what this means. Will I be being paid the £1.33 holiday in my hourly wage. Does it mean it is to cover holiday as we don't get paid for time off I don't think. I'm not really sure what £1.33 holiday pay means. The job is currently self employed so we sort out tax and national insurance.

I'm going to ask my manager but he is away so just thought someone might be able to shed some light on what the holiday pay means

So you are now employed rather than self-employed.  At least you are a worker and the employer should be paying employers NI as well as deducting tax and NI.
(I wonder how the rate compares to when you were self-employed.)

Your basic rate of pay is £11 and the £1.33 represents payment for the statutory paid leave to which you would be entitled.  They appear to propose paying you £12.33 with the holiday pay rolled up into it.  (Technically they should show the holiday pay as a separate line on your payslip  but perhaps there is little point in challenging that.)

My pay before was £10 an hour so this is a decent increase. So my hourly rate will be £12.33 an hour? And I just want get paid anything when I take holiday. 

Correct - and you'll be an employee, not self employed, which is good!

General_Grant

robdex1 said:

General_Grant said:

robdex1 said:

I work for a company as a self employed driver that does on deman grocery deliveries. The company have recently been bought out and in my new training video it says this about our pay (I have attached the image below)

I'm not quite sure what this means. Will I be being paid the £1.33 holiday in my hourly wage. Does it mean it is to cover holiday as we don't get paid for time off I don't think. I'm not really sure what £1.33 holiday pay means. The job is currently self employed so we sort out tax and national insurance.

I'm going to ask my manager but he is away so just thought someone might be able to shed some light on what the holiday pay means

So you are now employed rather than self-employed.  At least you are a worker and the employer should be paying employers NI as well as deducting tax and NI.
(I wonder how the rate compares to when you were self-employed.)

Your basic rate of pay is £11 and the £1.33 represents payment for the statutory paid leave to which you would be entitled.  They appear to propose paying you £12.33 with the holiday pay rolled up into it.  (Technically they should show the holiday pay as a separate line on your payslip  but perhaps there is little point in challenging that.)

My pay before was £10 an hour so this is a decent increase. So my hourly rate will be £12.33 an hour? And I just want get paid anything when I take holiday. 

What you will see as your gross pay is £12.33 an hour and when you take holiday you will not receive anything for that holiday time. 

[If you actually had to prove what your pay is - say if you were applying for a mortgage - you would still technically say your hourly rate is £11.  But that depends whether you were asked for current basic pay or simply how much you are earning in a year, the latter would be at the £12.33 rate.  No need to be bothered by this paragraph if you are not looking for a loan!]

Has this company provided anything in writing - like a statement of when your employment begins, entitlement to membership of a pension scheme, grievance procedure?

robdex1

General_Grant said:

robdex1 said:

General_Grant said:

robdex1 said:

I work for a company as a self employed driver that does on deman grocery deliveries. The company have recently been bought out and in my new training video it says this about our pay (I have attached the image below)

I'm not quite sure what this means. Will I be being paid the £1.33 holiday in my hourly wage. Does it mean it is to cover holiday as we don't get paid for time off I don't think. I'm not really sure what £1.33 holiday pay means. The job is currently self employed so we sort out tax and national insurance.

I'm going to ask my manager but he is away so just thought someone might be able to shed some light on what the holiday pay means

So you are now employed rather than self-employed.  At least you are a worker and the employer should be paying employers NI as well as deducting tax and NI.
(I wonder how the rate compares to when you were self-employed.)

Your basic rate of pay is £11 and the £1.33 represents payment for the statutory paid leave to which you would be entitled.  They appear to propose paying you £12.33 with the holiday pay rolled up into it.  (Technically they should show the holiday pay as a separate line on your payslip  but perhaps there is little point in challenging that.)

My pay before was £10 an hour so this is a decent increase. So my hourly rate will be £12.33 an hour? And I just want get paid anything when I take holiday. 

What you will see as your gross pay is £12.33 an hour and when you take holiday you will not receive anything for that holiday time. 

[If you actually had to prove what your pay is - say if you were applying for a mortgage - you would still technically say your hourly rate is £11.  But that depends whether you were asked for current basic pay or simply how much you are earning in a year, the latter would be at the £12.33 rate.  No need to be bothered by this paragraph if you are not looking for a loan!]

Has this company provided anything in writing - like a statement of when your employment begins, entitlement to membership of a pension scheme, grievance procedure?

No haven't been told anything yet. It's literally changing over on Monday and I only just found yesterday about pay rise from the training and spoke to my manager he told me it is correct but he can't really say anything until I get my contract that's why he didn't tell us? I've never been employed before so don't really know about all this stuff

General_Grant

If you are to be an employee, the employer is required by law to provide you with written particulars of your employment on or before your first day of employment.  So Monday should see some of your questions answered.

robdex1

General_Grant said:

If you are to be an employee, the employer is required by law to provide you with written particulars of your employment on or before your first day of employment.  So Monday should see some of your questions answered.

Thanks. I booked to go away over Christmas for 8 days a few weeks ago (when I was still self employed so could basically work when I want). I haven't told my manager yet but now I'm worried that as we are going to be employed could they be funny about it?

Savvy_Sue

robdex1 said:

Thanks. I booked to go away over Christmas for 8 days a few weeks ago (when I was still self employed so could basically work when I want). I haven't told my manager yet but now I'm worried that as we are going to be employed could they be funny about it?

Well yes, they could. When you get your documents, you need to look at what it says about booking leave - where I work, we are asked to give at least two weeks' notice for any leave we want to book, although more notice than that is preferred and we wouldn't automatically be turned down if we gave less. 

But it seems possible to me that you will be on a Zero Hours contract? In other words, they don't guarantee you a particular number of hours, they just offer work and you accept what you want and decline what you don't. If that's the case, you just won't accept any work in that week, BUT you may find that if you don't accept hours they won't offer so many ... 

robdex1

I have just received my contract and some parts are a bit ambiguous. Would it be ok to post on here for someone to take a look at. It says I will be classed as a 'worker' and it's basically a zero hour contract as they can't guarantee any hours. It says for tax I will be legally classed as an employee and therefore will have PAYE and national insurance. I will be paid weekly so will they tax me at basic rate each week? 

This is from the contract:

2.1 You are engaged as a Delivery Rider. You are engaged on acasual / on demand basis. You are considered a worker for the purposes of UK employment law, but not an employee. The Company is not obliged to offer you any work (either at all, or any particular minimum amount), and you are not obliged to accept any work that is offered. Save during time periods in which you have agreed to work for the Company, you are free to do other work and perform other services for other clients and customers of your delivery business.

I use my own car for deliveries but most drivers used mopeds provided by the company but I want to use my car. The car drivers are being paid the same as moped drivers, would it be fair to ask for more money as we have extra expenses (expensive insurance, wear and tear, fuel etc). I'm worried if I push to much they will say well you are being offered a moped if you want one. I'm already worried about the status of car drivers as they prefer moped drivers as they are quicker. However it says I the contract terms the following about using your own vehicle:

You will be provided with a Company vehicle which, unless agreed otherwise, you must use at all times when performing deliveries. You must return this to the Company in a good state of repair upon termination of your engagement with us (or at any time when we instruct you to do so). If, however, you have your own e-bike or e-scooter which you would prefer to use to perform deliveries, please let the Company know and the Company will consider permitting this (and meeting the associated running costs while you are performing deliveries).