Providing evidence but not idetifying the driver

UsOrThem

Hi All -  having received a NTK I am intending on submitting an appeal using this MSE letter template inserting the 'contravention did not occur' paragraph. However, I like to ask the forum if the evidence I want to submit will do more harm than good. 

Scenario - private car park >  ANPR > pay by phone > payment successfully made > typo in number plate entry by the driver via phone text msg which linked payment and car > penalty notice received via letter with camera images.  

With this in mind, I'd like to submit both banking transaction record as proof that payment was made and a screenshot of the text message entry. but lave the account number and phone number visible. I'm assuming I should mask them but would this not undermine the evidence as it needs to show a link to the driver and not be someone else's. 

thanks 

KeithP

No, don't use that template appeal.

Instead use the blue text template appeal easily found in the first post of the NEWBIES thread.

Unfortunately that MSE supplied template is not appropriate. It's shortcomings have been reported to MSE but they seem unwilling to correct that template.

@Fruitcake suggested you shouldn't use that MSE supplied template on your other thread - but that was four years ago.

D_P_Dance

This is a trifle and a judge is likely to throw the case if it goes to court, read this and complain  to your MP,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_minimis

Coupon-mad

As @KeithP rightly says, NO-ONE should be using that appallingly misadvised MSE template 'appeal'.  The advice in that article and sadly, the stuff Martin Lewis has said about private parking tickets on TV in recent years has been plain wrong.

Really frustrating for us as the right info is right here on the forum and (contrary to what appears to be MSE's belief) we DO NOT tell people to ignore private tickets and haven't done since just after the POFA came in, nine years ago.

Martin Lewis has the wrong end of the stick about our winning advice here.  I hope in the when they review their article for the new statutory rules in 2022 that he will realise and the article will instead point to what we do here, winning cases at appeal and in court, day in, day out.

Attach your redacted evidence to an appeal as keeper, using the forum appeal instead.

For a typo, you will be offered a one time £20 settlement (unless it is a very minor keying error they should have spotted, whereby the PCN should be cancelled).

UsOrThem

Thank you all and noted ref the template. I will proceed with the version I had seen in Newbies. 
@Coupon-mad the typo the driver had made was one letter so I hope will be considered minor and as @D_P_Dance suggests de_minimis! :-) 

I appreciate the support and great work you guys all do. 

Coupon-mad

Read the BPA CoP on keying errors to know the criteria, but ONLY if the PPC is a BPA AOS member.  Who is it?

UsOrThem

it's civil enforcement ltd who I believe, from their NTK letter, are BPA members. 
I've sent off my appeal now and have just seen your message. The guidance on keying errors would suggest that the one letter error should result in the cancellation. Here's hoping, I'll let you know. 

UsOrThem

 --- UPDATE ---
Receive acknowledgement direct from Civil enforcement Ltd that the ticket has been cancelled. Thanks for your input guys.

No further information was given beyond the cancellation. However, based on my challenge and evidence I submitted (SMS  bank payment screenshot)  it would seem that they adhered BPA guidance on the typo or 'keying error'  as per here
https://www.popla.co.uk/news/bpa-clarifies-keying-in-errors-in-revised-code-of-practice 

Coupon-mad

Very good!