Should i fight for higher rate mobility PIP?

londonerryan

Spoonie_Turtle said:

londonerryan said:

. I told them i use use a dosette box (for convenience, more than anything). It should score me 1 point. It didn't. My father pays all of the bills for my house and i pay him back. It's just easier for me that way. I should score, i believe it's 4 or 5 points. I didn't.

This is why you didn't score there.  They only score if things are due to a need, not convenience. 

[That could be seen as being harsh and treating us like we have no right to try and make our difficult lives a bit easier in any way, but regardless, they are the rules we have to work with.]

Sorry, i don't think i explained properly. I did everything 'by the book'. So i told them i use a dosette box. I didn't go any further. I told them my father pays the bills as it's too overwhelming and said i can provide evidence. I didn't go into depth like i have done in the past. 

londonerryan

I should also point out that i was speaking every fortnight with a doctor surgery support person who also advised me (like the CAB), and as suggested in a comment above, i began my change of circumstances form by explaining my condition, including many of my intrusive thoughts. Clearly none of this changed anything as i only scored an extra 2 points (in daily living). One of the main reasons i have contested my PIP claim for the first time is because i know several people who claim PIP who are all on higher rates - most have high rate for both parts - and don't understand why i don't, considering i'm the only one among us with actual 'mobility' issues (they aren't actually restricted on where they can go, whereas i am.... e.g. i never go to town, i don't walk anywhere, i remain within 30 metres of my car etc). 

Spoonie_Turtle

londonerryan said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

londonerryan said:

. I told them i use use a dosette box (for convenience, more than anything). It should score me 1 point. It didn't. My father pays all of the bills for my house and i pay him back. It's just easier for me that way. I should score, i believe it's 4 or 5 points. I didn't.

This is why you didn't score there.  They only score if things are due to a need, not convenience. 

[That could be seen as being harsh and treating us like we have no right to try and make our difficult lives a bit easier in any way, but regardless, they are the rules we have to work with.]

Sorry, i don't think i explained properly. I did everything 'by the book'. So i told them i use a dosette box. I didn't go any further. I told them my father pays the bills as it's too overwhelming and said i can provide evidence. I didn't go into depth like i have done in the past. 

For PIP you do have to explain why you need the help/support because of your health condition.  It's not second-guessing or overthinking, the decision maker knows nothing about you and your health apart from what you put on the form and any medical evidence you send.  I don't know how much weight is given to supplying proof of things like having your bills paid - hopefully others more experienced will know. 

The tribunal should be good at asking the questions they need to get the information to be able to make a decision but it does still help if you know what you need to explain.

[I'm unclear from your comments whether you're still pursuing higher mobility, or just concentrating on getting a daily living award?]

It's also not unusual to not get the correct decision from a mandatory reconsideration.  If anything it's still a surprise when it does happen!

londonerryan

Spoonie_Turtle said:

londonerryan said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

londonerryan said:

. I told them i use use a dosette box (for convenience, more than anything). It should score me 1 point. It didn't. My father pays all of the bills for my house and i pay him back. It's just easier for me that way. I should score, i believe it's 4 or 5 points. I didn't.

This is why you didn't score there.  They only score if things are due to a need, not convenience. 

[That could be seen as being harsh and treating us like we have no right to try and make our difficult lives a bit easier in any way, but regardless, they are the rules we have to work with.]

Sorry, i don't think i explained properly. I did everything 'by the book'. So i told them i use a dosette box. I didn't go any further. I told them my father pays the bills as it's too overwhelming and said i can provide evidence. I didn't go into depth like i have done in the past. 

For PIP you do have to explain why you need the help/support because of your health condition.  It's not second-guessing or overthinking, the decision maker knows nothing about you and your health apart from what you put on the form and any medical evidence you send.  I don't know how much weight is given to supplying proof of things like having your bills paid - hopefully others more experienced will know. 

The tribunal should be good at asking the questions they need to get the information to be able to make a decision but it does still help if you know what you need to explain.

[I'm unclear from your comments whether you're still pursuing higher mobility, or just concentrating on getting a daily living award?]

It's also not unusual to not get the correct decision from a mandatory reconsideration.  If anything it's still a surprise when it does happen!

I guess i'm seeking higher on the daily living part. From what i calculated, i should score 14 points. I know people who went from 0 points to 20 at tribunal. People i know don't understand how i am not on higher rate, and never have been, considering i'm the only person i've known during my recovery years who is actually unable to go where they wish.