Part time working and overtime

I understand if you work part time the employer does not have to pay overtime until you reach the same number of hours worked as a full time employee, that is on average 40 hours. My question is does this include weekends as well if the normal working week is Monday to Friday.  Thanks
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  • JillanddyJillanddy Forumite
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    An employer doesn't have to "pay overtime" at all,  if by that you mean enhanced rates.  What the employer pays and when,  provided it meets the minimum wage, is between you and them. Equally weekends and Bank Holidays are just days,  unless your contract says otherwise. So there is nothing special about working on them.
  • oh_reallyoh_really Forumite
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    If weekend working attracts an enhanced rate of pay there is no reason you can't be paid that rate even though it's not o/t for you.
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    Dimwit100Dimwit100 Forumite
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    edited 13 October at 9:35PM
    oh_really said:
    If weekend working attracts an enhanced rate of pay there is no reason you can't be paid that rate even though it's not o/t for you.
    So basically if full time employees get enhanced rates of pay for weekend working then it would not be unreasonable for a part time employee to ask for the same even if they have not worked a "full" week.
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    oh_reallyoh_really Forumite
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    edited 13 October at 9:58PM
    You need to read your employers policy on the issue and have an informed conversation.
    Too much to hope your in a union.
    This may involve full time workers doing overtime, where as you are looking at attracting week-end enhancements, they are not the same thing, you need to be clear on this and your expectations.
  • Dimwit100Dimwit100 Forumite
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    No I'm not in a union.
    It's new ground to me working part time also the company in question is a new company that's only been going about a year with only one full time employee at the moment. I personally know the owners so it's quiet easy to discuss issues with them . But I want to make sure that everything is correct and in writing.
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    Dimwit100 said:
    No I'm not in a union.
    It's new ground to me working part time also the company in question is a new company that's only been going about a year with only one full time employee at the moment. I personally know the owners so it's quiet easy to discuss issues with them . But I want to make sure that everything is correct and in writing.
    As long as it meets statutory minimum requirements (meaning minimum wage, pension contributions within a band, etc) then what you agree is between you and them.
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    If the full timer swaps a week day for a weekend day do they get the enhanced rate?

    The employer needs to clarify.
    Taking into account the part time employment laws.
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    Dimwit100 said:
    oh_really said:
    If weekend working attracts an enhanced rate of pay there is no reason you can't be paid that rate even though it's not o/t for you.
    So basically if full time employees get enhanced rates of pay for weekend working then it would not be unreasonable for a part time employee to ask for the same even if they have not worked a "full" week.
    An employer can't treat a part time employee less favourably that a full time person simply because they are part time.

    However there are ways round this regarding "overtime" and a lot depends on the wording of your contract. For example, it may not offer a guaranteed number of hours (i.e. zero hour) or it could offer a certain minimum number of hours with the option of more by mutual consent, which would only be paid at the standard rate. Could even be at a lower rate providing it is not below the NMW!

    As has been said above, there is no basic legal right to a higher rate for "overtime".
  • warby68warby68 Forumite
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    Unless its essential that work is done at the weekend,  then another likely scenario is that if you are available for more hours you are asked to work these on weekdays and stay away from enhanced rates that way.
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    Dimwit100 said:
    oh_really said:
    If weekend working attracts an enhanced rate of pay there is no reason you can't be paid that rate even though it's not o/t for you.
    So basically if full time employees get enhanced rates of pay for weekend working then it would not be unreasonable for a part time employee to ask for the same even if they have not worked a "full" week.
    Where I work you would have to work up to the full time hours even at weekends before you were entitled to an enhanced rate.
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