Simple Procedure - Horizon Parking

Tcw23

Umkomaas said:

For how many tickets and for what total amount are Horizon pursuing you?  Some further context might help here. 

It’s for 24 tickets totally to 2.5k. After this I was then added to the permit and the tickets stopped.

D_P_Dance

Even though the newbies concerns only England and Wales, I would advise you to read it on the basis that there is no such thing as bad intelligence. 



















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Tcw23

patient_dream said:

Tcw23 said:

D_P_Dance said:

Have you complained to your MPs

I haven’t, would this help me at all?

It will help and your can refer your MP to Pete Wishart Scottish MP who spoke in the House of commons regarding the new code of practice

Pete Wishart MP - Parking (Code of Practice) Bill - End rogue parking firms

Thanks so much for this. I’ve contacted my local MP and mentioned Pete Wishart within the email. I’ve included the situation and how their scaremongering tactics have put me under a mass amount of stress. I’ll keep everyone updated with what she replies

Nostrus

Although you are trying to have this resolved to your benefit, do not ignore the response date supplied with the Simple Procedure.

You should be able to state that you're going to defend the case, but not have to provide any details immediately. If you don't do this, then Horizon shall be given a decision by default, as the court shall assume you aren't interested in fighting it.

Although you can haul a decision back into court after it has been granted, it'll be more of an uphill battle to do so. So get your response in, and then go about gathering the evidence you need to fight it. Obviously, record everything and make certain that people you are requesting information of are aware it's for a court case.

Coupon-mad

Yes I was going to say similar, there must hopefully be a way, as there is in England, of acknowledging and saying you intend to defend, and that buys you more time.  We don't know, so read up on that or ask for urgent confirmation of that at least from the free advice services, CAB if you have to, just to establish that.

Have they not added fake debt recovery sums on top of each PCN, taking it over £4k in total?  Or is it 'just' for the £100 PCNs racked up when awaiting the inexplicably delayed permit (a permit scheme that this Claimant presumably has a hand in)?

Reminder: please look at my first reply for how you should approach the defence, in my view.  I am not legally trained so this is 'take it or leave it' consumer advice, of course, merely given in my experience suggesting that you tell the truth, admit to driving and talk about the permit application delay causing you this unfair and disproportionate detriment.

Don't let your law centre tell you that either the Beavis case (Supreme court) or the Carly Mackie case (Scotland) means you have no defence.  Your case is not like either, and in the latter, she was parking with no permission and offered a useless defence that 'PCNs are unenforceable' pretty much.

You are not saying that. You are saying that, at least on the dates of some (all?) of theses PCNs, the Claimant or their client managing agent, knew you had rightfully applied for a paper permit snd should have fairly had your VRM on the site 'whitelist' which was entirely within their gift.

Tcw23

Coupon-mad, that’s where the problem is. I didn’t request to be added onto the permit until after these tickets. But I was thinking surely that shows I was eventually authorised to park and hopefully the judge would see that? I’ve started drafting up my defence but I have no idea how to word anything or explain in a formal matter. I’ll post on here once I’ve got my first version.

KeithP

Tcw23 said:

 I’ve started drafting up my defence but I have no idea how to word anything or explain in a formal matter. I’ll post on here once I’ve got my first version.

Although primarily intended for the English and Welsh courts system, surely the template Defence thread, in particular the second post therein, will give you some guidance.

Tcw23

Thanks KeithP. Also, my last date of response states 21/10 - is this the last day I can send it to them?

KeithP

Tcw23 said:

Thanks KeithP. Also, my last date of response states 21/10 - is this the last day I can send it to them?

I've no idea, but just reading what you have written...
You tell us the last day of response is 21/10. What else could that possibly mean?

Coupon-mad

Tcw23 said:

Thanks KeithP. Also, my last date of response states 21/10 - is this the last day I can send it to them?

No-one here knows and I already suggested what you must urgently do, to find out the basics:

there must hopefully be a way, as there is in England, of acknowledging and saying you intend to defend, and that buys you more time.  We don't know, so read up on that or ask for urgent confirmation of that at least from the free advice services, CAB if you have to, just to establish that.