Getting the front panel off Worcester Greenstar 25si boiler?

delmonta

Hi

I have just bought a Hive smart thermostat and want to fit it. It seems very simple if only I could get the front panel of the boiler off! The manual is not much use and videos of other similar boilers show two screws that mine doesn't have.

Does anyone have any idea for this boiler?

grumbler

delmonta said:

I have just bought a Hive smart thermostat and want to fit it. It seems very simple if only I could get the front panel of the boiler off!

Does it really have to be removed? I'd expect the control terminals to be more accessible. Where is the existing controller/programmer?

neilmcl

You need to remove the outer case before you can get access to the front control panel. Be aware though as your not Gas Safe registered removing the casing isn't strictly allowed.

NSG666

If it's got an external thermostat already can't you just use the wires already there? as neilmcl says it's illegal to remove the cover unless you are gas safe registered. When you sort the screws the whole thing pulls towards you so you need to dismantle the cupboard for your GSR engineer to be able to take the cover off

delmonta

I've watched a few videos of people removing the cover on similar Worcester boilers, but they had just a couple of screws on the underneath and then the whole front cover just slipped off.

On mine there are no screws but also there doesn't appear to be seperate metal casing for the sides and front, as far as I can tell it the metal casing wraps all the way around the sides. So it must be a different design

I can't make sense of it!

delmonta

grumbler said:

delmonta said:

I have just bought a Hive smart thermostat and want to fit it. It seems very simple if only I could get the front panel of the boiler off!

Does it really have to be removed? I'd expect the control terminals to be more accessible. Where is the existing controller/programmer?

Apparently it does for the hive. The programmers/receiver thing is the roun but on the front. That has to be removed and behind it somewhere there will be some terminals to wire up the hive receiver

delmonta

NSG666 said:

If it's got an external thermostat already can't you just use the wires already there? as neilmcl says it's illegal to remove the cover unless you are gas safe registered. When you sort the screws the whole thing pulls towards you so you need to dismantle the cupboard for your GSR engineer to be able to take the cover off

No the Hive is a bit different and needs to be wired in a different way.

So I boxed in the boiler thinking anyone would only need to get to the underneath and the bottom section with the controls. Have I made a mistake there? Do I need to make the top half accessible too? I don't want to dismantle my cupboard

neilmcl

delmonta said:

I've watched a few videos of people removing the cover on similar Worcester boilers, but they had just a couple of screws on the underneath and then the whole front cover just slipped off.

On mine there are no screws but also there doesn't appear to be seperate metal casing for the sides and front, as far as I can tell it the metal casing wraps all the way around the sides. So it must be a different design

I can't make sense of it!

Yours is a single metal casing, there's usually 4 screws for your model; two at the top and two underneath near the front corners. As I mentioned you're not supposed to remove it without being GSR as it acts as a seal to the upper combustion chamber and that's a no no for anyone unqualified.

plumb1_2

You shouldn’t be taking off, but 2 s/steel  clips underneath you press upwards if I remember 😳

grumbler

delmonta said:

grumbler said:

delmonta said:

I have just bought a Hive smart thermostat and want to fit it. It seems very simple if only I could get the front panel of the boiler off!

Does it really have to be removed? I'd expect the control terminals to be more accessible. Where is the existing controller/programmer?

Apparently it does for the hive. The programmers/receiver thing is the roun but on the front. That has to be removed and behind it somewhere there will be some terminals to wire up the hive receiver

It's hard to believe that the existing wireless receiver is located inside steel boxing.

If it's not wireless, then some cable havs to go outside to some sort of controller.

NSG666

delmonta said:

NSG666 said:

If it's got an external thermostat already can't you just use the wires already there? as neilmcl says it's illegal to remove the cover unless you are gas safe registered. When you sort the screws the whole thing pulls towards you so you need to dismantle the cupboard for your GSR engineer to be able to take the cover off

No the Hive is a bit different and needs to be wired in a different way.

So I boxed in the boiler thinking anyone would only need to get to the underneath and the bottom section with the controls. Have I made a mistake there? Do I need to make the top half accessible too? I don't want to dismantle my cupboard

Yes the whole casing comes off - if you look at the instructions it will have a minimum distance in front of the casing for using it and another for servicing it. You need to dismantle your cupboard and rebuild it with a door.