Quote check and recommend a [multi-fuel] stove?

NewShadow

Afternoon All. 

I've had a quote for a stove installation and I think it ticks all the boxes, but would appreciate your opinion if you care to share - One thing to bear in mind is the house is made of a grey block that's the hardest substance known to man... so there's a little extra man power time added to allow for that. 

I'm also looking for a recommendation for a stove: 
- less than £800 
- clean/simple rather than 'traditional' 
- preferably a removable ash tray 
- not wedded on wood vs multi-fuel... 
- 4/5 kWh
- it's a wide chimney breast [148x40cm]

FreeBear

Does it include removal of all waste ?

The price doesn't look to be excessive, but.... Gypsum plaster will crack & flake when exposed to temperatures above 50°C. You will be surprised at just how hot a wall to the sides & above a stove can get (I regularly see 60-120°C with my stove). You need to use a heat resistant plaster such as Vitcas or lime.

NewShadow

Thanks for the reminder - We discussed needing a 4 foot skip on the front - I need to clarify if I'm ordering that [at which point I know where to get one locally for less than £150] or if they are. It might be easiest if I get it given I'm having the bathroom renovated at the same time and I assume they can share a skip... 

I'll ask about the plaster [I assume that's the 'bonding plaster'?]

FreeBear

NewShadow said: I'll ask about the plaster [I assume that's the 'bonding plaster'?]

Both bonding and multifinish will be gypsum plasters - Neither will tolerate the high temperatures found close to a stove.

Bendy_House

NS, that quote seems perfectly reasonable to me for a fully finished job.

Sis had an Ottawa fitted a good 6, 7 years ago, with no issues. Neat styling, works well, chugs out the heat, and has a wide-opening door should you want to see and feel the living flame (obviously not as efficient this way, but hey...). It's definitely very good value.

https://www.stoveworlduk.co.uk/multi-fuel-stoves/_DEFRA-APPROVED-Ottawa-5kw -Contemporary-Wood-burning-Stove

Check out the others on this site, tho' - they have surely improved more over the past few years.

NewShadow

Thanks, it's a tidy looking little stove  

At the moment my eyes are drawn to the Arada/Hamlet Solution 5 Widescreen [S4] and the Portway Arundel XL 

https://www.aradastoves.com/solution-5-widescreen-s4/p36786 
https://www.snhtradecentre.co.uk/product/flavel-arundel-xl-stove-defra-approved/

Mainly because of the width - at roughly a third of the chimney - I'm thinking something less wide might look at little lost. 

Unfortunately I'm not in a position to go and see anything in a showroom right now so any comments or other recommendations appreciated 

phoebe1989seb

In 2018 we paid £5701 for two Defra approved stoves (1 x multi fuel, 1 x wood burning), all additional parts including 2 x slate hearths (1450 x 900 x 40mm and 1200 x 800 x 40mm which - being Wales where slate is plentiful - were only £40 each 😉) installation (carried out by two men), testing,  HETAS certification etc. This didn't include the plastering which DH did himself, skip hire (we arranged this separately as part of a large refurb project) or the scaffolding that was needed.

It broke down as - £2406 for the labour, materials etc for both and £3295 for the two stoves.

I can highly recommend the stoves we chose from our local supplier (Charnwood C6 and Dovre Vintage 50, the latter of which was obtained for a good price being ex display 😃), although the output/price of both is more than you require/your budget, but it might be worth seeking out an ex display bargain, online perhaps....

goodwithsaving

Another vote for Ecosy+ sold by Stoveworld. I had a Snug at my last house and am seeking to fit another (so thank you for sharing your quote too). Great fire it was, and £500 if I recall.

Bendy_House

NewShadow said:

Thanks, it's a tidy looking little stove  

At the moment my eyes are drawn to the Arada/Hamlet Solution 5 Widescreen [S4] and the Portway Arundel XL 

https://www.aradastoves.com/solution-5-widescreen-s4/p36786 
https://www.snhtradecentre.co.uk/product/flavel-arundel-xl-stove-defra-approved/

Mainly because of the width - at roughly a third of the chimney - I'm thinking something less wide might look at little lost. 

Unfortunately I'm not in a position to go and see anything in a showroom right now so any comments or other recommendations appreciated 

Yes, if the wider size makes it sit better aesthetically, then that's a very important point.

In my sis's case, I built the chimney breast around it, so had to plan for the most appropriate opening size. Google images was my friend - easy to see what the best proportions are from these, as well as - of course - allowing the required gap around the stove.

So, measure up your opening, check lots of photos to find the styles you like best, interpolate the dimensions from the photos to see how it relates to yours, and then arrive at a 'my stove should be between x wide and y high and yay wide and hoooo high, and use that too.

I know you shouldn't have the doors open when it's running, but personally I wouldn't have one that couldn't be. By that I mean the door(s) should open 180o - quite a few don't.

S_Keen

Just had a cast iron stove removed at wifes insistence as it was fitted direct into Chimney of a 1928 brick flue with no problems. Had the Arundel XL fitted and every time you open door a cloud of smoke and ash enters the room. Appears to be due to the baffle plate at the top is lower than the top of the door. Didnt review it prior to  purchase which was a mistake as several similar reviews. Impressive heat output and looks lovely whilst on. Cant be used with glass door open which didnt realise until reading the small print. Would love to recommend this stove but cant based on our issues and similar reviews