Neighbours caravan against our bedroom wall!

KatieS

The caravan was only out there this week. They’ve just bought another car so think it’s the only place for their caravan. They do rent so may not have thought about boundaries and wall damage 

unforeseen

Davesnave said:

unforeseen said:

Davesnave said:

unforeseen said:

Wanderingpomm said:

I would be surprised if that’s the boundary, it would mean your gutters are on their land. I would think that the boundary is the edge of your roof 

If it's a 30s house then there is a very good chance that the neighbour has gained an easement to use their drive all the way to the wall through usage over the last 90+ years. 

It takes 20 years for a prescriptive easement to be created and the caravan arrived 'yesterday.' While it's a movable and temporary object, that's a good enough reason for not accepting its semi-permanent siting under the eaves,

Doesn't need to have been a caravan, it could be anything that was placed next to the wall that will start the clock ticking, probably from the first day the house was occupied. 

Yes, but there's no indication that anything has been placed there permanently. Clocks only start ticking when things are long term and continuous. Even a short lapse of a month or two can stop the clock too. so when and if it re-starts, it's at zero..

Doesn't need to be permanent, just regularly. Walking along that bit once a day would be sufficient

Davesnave

unforeseen said:

Davesnave said:

unforeseen said:

Davesnave said:

unforeseen said:

Wanderingpomm said:

I would be surprised if that’s the boundary, it would mean your gutters are on their land. I would think that the boundary is the edge of your roof 

If it's a 30s house then there is a very good chance that the neighbour has gained an easement to use their drive all the way to the wall through usage over the last 90+ years. 

It takes 20 years for a prescriptive easement to be created and the caravan arrived 'yesterday.' While it's a movable and temporary object, that's a good enough reason for not accepting its semi-permanent siting under the eaves,

Doesn't need to have been a caravan, it could be anything that was placed next to the wall that will start the clock ticking, probably from the first day the house was occupied. 

Yes, but there's no indication that anything has been placed there permanently. Clocks only start ticking when things are long term and continuous. Even a short lapse of a month or two can stop the clock too. so when and if it re-starts, it's at zero..

Doesn't need to be permanent, just regularly. Walking along that bit once a day would be sufficient

Provided the person could prove they've done so, which as a tenant would be slightly odd!

Let's be positive, rather than throwing far-fetched potential woes at the OP. There's a tenant next door who has been thoughtless in parking their caravan; it's not some kind of land grab.

Again, I'd ask the OP if the window where light is being blocked is a habitable room, as she's acquired  the right to that light over the years if it is.

KatieS

Until last year that room was a bedroom. We converted it into a hallway to put stairs up into the loft. 

Rosa_Damascena

unforeseen said:

thegreenone said:

FreeBear said:

JIL said:

unforeseen said:

JIL said:

Our deeds specifically state that we are not allowed to park a static caravan or mobilehome on our drive way. Might be worth checking yours, surely the neighbours  would be similar. 

Well, that doesn't look like a static caravan or a mobile home. It looks like a standard touring caravan. 

Words.
Still worth a check of the deeds. The older the property the stranger things appear on the prohibition on the deeds.

The ones likely to get a mention is no keeping of pigs, no brewing or sale of alcohol, and not to run a brothel. Caravans were not a thing in the 1930s, and commercial vehicles were few and far between.

I've just checked our deeds.  In 1923 there was a covenant in place that no caravan can be parked on this land.  It also states that the neighbours would be entitled to forcibly remove any such caravan.  The deeds were updated on the next sale in 1931, to again state no caravan and add no business should be run from the property and it cannot be run as a poultry farm and no pigs. I'm guessing the caravans would have been for those travelling around the country for farm work. 

Good luck with attempting to forcibly remove it. I bet the laws have changed enough from the 30s to make any attempt a criminal act.
If you've got really deep pockets you could attempt to go via the courts but I don't rate your chances of success. 

This is an accident waiting to happen.

thegreenone

Rosa_Damascena said:

unforeseen said:

thegreenone said:

FreeBear said:

JIL said:

unforeseen said:

JIL said:

Our deeds specifically state that we are not allowed to park a static caravan or mobilehome on our drive way. Might be worth checking yours, surely the neighbours  would be similar. 

Well, that doesn't look like a static caravan or a mobile home. It looks like a standard touring caravan. 

Words.
Still worth a check of the deeds. The older the property the stranger things appear on the prohibition on the deeds.

The ones likely to get a mention is no keeping of pigs, no brewing or sale of alcohol, and not to run a brothel. Caravans were not a thing in the 1930s, and commercial vehicles were few and far between.

I've just checked our deeds.  In 1923 there was a covenant in place that no caravan can be parked on this land.  It also states that the neighbours would be entitled to forcibly remove any such caravan.  The deeds were updated on the next sale in 1931, to again state no caravan and add no business should be run from the property and it cannot be run as a poultry farm and no pigs. I'm guessing the caravans would have been for those travelling around the country for farm work. 

Good luck with attempting to forcibly remove it. I bet the laws have changed enough from the 30s to make any attempt a criminal act.
If you've got really deep pockets you could attempt to go via the courts but I don't rate your chances of success. 

This is an accident waiting to happen.

Apologies, I seemed to have caused confusion.  I was replying to Free Bear who said caravans were not a thing in 1930s.  According to my deeds (not the OPs), they were.  

FreeBear

thegreenone said:

Rosa_Damascena said:

unforeseen said:

thegreenone said:

FreeBear said:

JIL said:

unforeseen said:

JIL said:

Our deeds specifically state that we are not allowed to park a static caravan or mobilehome on our drive way. Might be worth checking yours, surely the neighbours  would be similar. 

Well, that doesn't look like a static caravan or a mobile home. It looks like a standard touring caravan. 

Words.
Still worth a check of the deeds. The older the property the stranger things appear on the prohibition on the deeds.

The ones likely to get a mention is no keeping of pigs, no brewing or sale of alcohol, and not to run a brothel. Caravans were not a thing in the 1930s, and commercial vehicles were few and far between.

I've just checked our deeds.  In 1923 there was a covenant in place that no caravan can be parked on this land.  It also states that the neighbours would be entitled to forcibly remove any such caravan.  The deeds were updated on the next sale in 1931, to again state no caravan and add no business should be run from the property and it cannot be run as a poultry farm and no pigs. I'm guessing the caravans would have been for those travelling around the country for farm work. 

Good luck with attempting to forcibly remove it. I bet the laws have changed enough from the 30s to make any attempt a criminal act.
If you've got really deep pockets you could attempt to go via the courts but I don't rate your chances of success. 

This is an accident waiting to happen.

Apologies, I seemed to have caused confusion.  I was replying to Free Bear who said caravans were not a thing in 1930s.  According to my deeds (not the OPs), they were.  

In some parts of the country, you can hardly move during the summer months thanks to the shed pullers clogging up the roads. Back in the 1930s, fewer people owned cars and caravan ownership would have been a rarity in comparison. Surprised that you have them specifically mentioned in your covenants. Perhaps it is a reflection on the area you live in.

wilfred30

KatieS said:

Until last year that room was a bedroom. We converted it into a hallway to put stairs up into the loft. 

In which case, your thread title is wrong.  Pedantic I know but It's against your hallway wall rather than your bedroom 

980233

Have you seen the film Snatch? There is a solution in it.

DRP

If it is the neighbour’s property there’s nothing to be done, right?