Speeding Ticket

ImranU95

Hi, I received a speeding letter through the post on the 11th August and I sent it back on around the 20th August as I was not driving. This letter was just received today to the address of the driver at the time. Can this be challenged due to the timing? 

Another thing that strikes me is that usually they provide images of the offence straight away but in this instance, they aren’t going to provide it? I do not recall being flashed (I was in the vehicle at the time)?

I have attached images of both the initial letter as well as the follow up letter.

Thanks in advance!

Ebe_Scrooge

ImranU95 said:

Can this be challenged due to the timing? No, not if the original NIP was received within the required timeframe.

Another thing that strikes me is that usually they provide images of the offence straight away but in this instance, they aren’t going to provide it?  It's not common to provide the evidence for speeding offences.  If you want to challenge it in court then you can request the evidence, but they don't usually provide it unless you wish to challenge it.

My comments above.

TheMilkmansDad

I believe there was a similar thread recently where I think the general advise was no, it can't be challenged.

On a related note - Whitwell Hill is an absolute b4st4rd. There is virtually always a mobile speed camera about 300meters after the bottom of the hill, there wouldn't have been a flash to see.

AdrianC

It was sent to the name and address on the V5C.
That's the bit that the 14 day limit applies to.

The offence was the 8th, you received it on the 11th.
That's well within 14 days.

80 on an NSL d/c is not exactly a snidge above the limit - but it's still well within tea-and-biscuits territory, providing the driver hasn't made a habit of it. Even if they have, it's absolute £100/3pt FPN... unless this would take them to totting-ban territory.

They have to provide images on request. If the images are necessary to help you identify the driver, then you can request them. Otherwise, they will provide them if the driver wishes to contest the charge. You were in the car at the time, just three days before you received the s172 - so I presume there is no issue with identifying the driver. If that driver wishes to contest the charge, they can do so once they've confirmed they were driving.

TooManyPoints

Just for added information, the only document that must be served within 14 days is the first Notice of Intended Prosecution. In fact that is the only one that is necessary at all. Subsequent NIPs are not required by law and are provided as a courtesy (and usually because the system that produces them also produces the "Section 172" request for driver's details, often printed on the same piece of paper). There is no time limit on Section 172 notices though there is an overriding time limit of six months from the date of the alleged offence to begin court action.

If you think about it, a second NIP is very unlikely to be served within 14 days (if it was necessary to served one at all). The initial recipient has 28 days to respond.