TV upgrade - worth paying for OLED?

neilmcl

Sandtree said:

neilmcl said:

Sandtree said:

Username03725 said:

OLED gives a richer colour, and like virtually all TVs sold now it will be 4K at least so there's no realistic option of finding a new tv that's not 4K even if you wanted to.

I'm not sure this is true... if you look at the tech press on mobile phones they state that OLED does look richer because 1) the diodes are closer to the surface and 2) because the screens are brighter. In TVs however LED are brighter than OLEDs and so assuming we are comparing like for like (ie both have HDR/Dolby Vision etc) LED will typically appear slightly richer.

Where OLED is in a league of their own is in the dark areas... OLEDs self illuminate and so an area is black no light is produced, LEDs have a backlight and shutters to control the amount of light coming out of each pixel and inevitably there is leakage even if the shutter is closed. Better LED TVs have zones of backlighting so if the whole area is dark that backlight can be dimmed therefore reducing the leakage more.    

I don't agree with that, light output doesn't equate to richness of picture, there's way more to it than that. The only advantage an LED screen has with it's brightness levels is being able to be used in very bright environments, but the differences are marginal for most living rooms.

I would certainly say it makes for a more vivid picture which is why the first thing the likes of Currys do on a new display TV is turn the brightness up to max and OLED can look a little dull in comparison when side by side in that environment. Richness is slightly harder to articulate or quantify 

And clearly not understanding (Currys staff that is) that the brightness setting has naff all to do with how "bright" a TV is.

Sandtree

neilmcl said:

Sandtree said:

neilmcl said:

Sandtree said:

Username03725 said:

OLED gives a richer colour, and like virtually all TVs sold now it will be 4K at least so there's no realistic option of finding a new tv that's not 4K even if you wanted to.

I'm not sure this is true... if you look at the tech press on mobile phones they state that OLED does look richer because 1) the diodes are closer to the surface and 2) because the screens are brighter. In TVs however LED are brighter than OLEDs and so assuming we are comparing like for like (ie both have HDR/Dolby Vision etc) LED will typically appear slightly richer.

Where OLED is in a league of their own is in the dark areas... OLEDs self illuminate and so an area is black no light is produced, LEDs have a backlight and shutters to control the amount of light coming out of each pixel and inevitably there is leakage even if the shutter is closed. Better LED TVs have zones of backlighting so if the whole area is dark that backlight can be dimmed therefore reducing the leakage more.    

I don't agree with that, light output doesn't equate to richness of picture, there's way more to it than that. The only advantage an LED screen has with it's brightness levels is being able to be used in very bright environments, but the differences are marginal for most living rooms.

I would certainly say it makes for a more vivid picture which is why the first thing the likes of Currys do on a new display TV is turn the brightness up to max and OLED can look a little dull in comparison when side by side in that environment. Richness is slightly harder to articulate or quantify 

And clearly not understanding (Currys staff that is) that the brightness setting has naff all to do with how "bright" a TV is.

I have a small suspicion that the curry's staff tasked with setting up the TVs haven't been on a course where they teach you how to correctly calibrate a TV for its environment... I'd put money on the closest thing they've done is a heath and safety video on how to lift the tv out the box and not damage your back.

neilmcl

In reality most of them simply whack the TVs into their respective "dynamic" viewing mode with everything dialled up to the max and the sad things a lot of customers will keep it in the same default mode when they get their expensive TVs back home and tell their friends "look how bright and vivid my new telly is" 😂

Username03725

It’s easy to be dismissive but most TVs on display are set to Shop Mode, which does turn things up, partly to overcome the normal overdose of fluorescent lighting that they’re displayed in.

A new tv out of the box in the customer's home won’t be on Shop Mode, unless the punter delves through the menus to set it on.

My experience is that having spent money on a new tv most people are keen to get the best out of it and recognise that orange faces and purple lips don’t make a good picture.