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today, deadline ,Shall I waiting the appeal or pay Parking fine £60 or wait for appeal result ?

my friend's parking permit was not dispalyED fully, partial info hide in a corner of the windscreen, but most parking permit info is clear, Countrywide Parking Management Ltd, the operator refused the appeal and we appeal it in IAS, but today is deadline for £60, IAS no result yet, if we lose the appeal, do we have to pay £100, or just pay them £60? will they chase the rest £40?
I remember yearS ago, my local county weaved off the parking fine as I forgot to dispaly my parking permit, but this 
Countrywide Parking Management Ltd operator don't give any chance.
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  • Le_Kirk
    Le_Kirk Posts: 25,215 Forumite
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    You can choose to pay but no one on this forum will recommend that action.  You can wait for IAS verdict but it will be a rejection slip.  You then wait for a letter before/of claim and a claim form from Northampton CCBC where you can put your/your friend's case to a judge.  You/your friend does have a case?  Yes?
    my local county weaved off the parking fine 
    Did you mean waived?  However it is not a fine, it is a speculative invoice.  I think from the questions you are asking, you have not read the advice we give to all NEWBIEs contained in the NEWBIE section, the one marked READ THIS FIRST.
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 16 September 2021 at 3:45PM
    You don’t PAY the likes of Countrywide Parking Management!  Slow down, stop thinking there is a deadline to pay and that the ‘discount’ is something worth having.

    My goodness and you even appealed thinking that the IAS is independent.  You haven’t realised it’s a kangaroo court run by the Trade Body for and on behalf of IPC parking firms and only upheld 4% of appeals from appellants last year?

    You really need to get up to speed with private parking scams and read the Newbies thread so you know to ignore it when the IAS inevitably reject your futile ‘appeal’. 

    Don’t pay and no more questions until you’ve read the first post of the newbies thread. No link.  See my signature below for where to click to read it.

    And no reading this massive information source on a phone, if that was the reason you missed ‘NEWBIES, PLEASE READ THESE FAQS FIRST’ the only Announcement in capital letters. 
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
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  • Terry1931
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    edited 16 September 2021 at 5:54PM
    Not everyone is in a position to not pay then sit at home waiting for the court claim issued by the parking company against you for non payment. 

    It's an unknown hanging over you.
    Things and events can go wrong resulting in a CCJ against you. 

    Sometimes it can be better to pay the £60 under duress then use the other £ 40 to take a money claim online claim out against the parking company for recovery of the incorrect Parking Charge. 

    Turn the tables on the Parking companies, see how they like appearing as the Dependents in a mass of Court cases. 

    If you are questioned in your claim why you did this then you explain exactly the above. You were not prepared for the parking company to excercise a controlling threat of action over you. 
  • KeithP
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    edited 16 September 2021 at 5:54PM
    Terry1931 said:
    Not everyone is in a position to not pay then sit at home waiting for the court claim issued by the parking company against you for non payment.
    Having decided not to pay an unjust demand, why does anyone have to sit at home, or sit anywhere else, waiting for a court claim?

    Surely the rational choice, following a decision not to pay the speculative invoice, is get on with your normal life, whilst dealing with the next event - be it parking related or not?
  • Terry1931
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    edited 16 September 2021 at 6:03PM
    KeithP said:
    Terry1931 said:
    Not everyone is in a position to not pay then sit at home waiting for the court claim issued by the parking company against you for non payment.
    Having decided not to pay an unjust demand, why does anyone have to sit at home, or sit anywhere else, waiting for a court claim?

    Surely the rational choice, following a decision not to pay the speculative invoice, is get on with your normal life, whilst dealing with the next event - be it parking related or not?
    This forum is full of people who had that intention only to get into further aggro, grief and CCJs

    Turn the tables on the parking companies. 

    Be a claimant instead of a defendant , your terms and timescale not theirs. 

    If your case is good then you will win just as easily. An increase in  parking companies with lots of CCJs against them is what we need. 
  • Umkomaas
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    edited 16 September 2021 at 6:54PM
    Terry1931 said:
    KeithP said:
    Terry1931 said:
    Not everyone is in a position to not pay then sit at home waiting for the court claim issued by the parking company against you for non payment.
    Having decided not to pay an unjust demand, why does anyone have to sit at home, or sit anywhere else, waiting for a court claim?

    Surely the rational choice, following a decision not to pay the speculative invoice, is get on with your normal life, whilst dealing with the next event - be it parking related or not?
    This forum is full of people who had that intention only to get into further aggro, grief and CCJs

    Turn the tables on the parking companies. 

    Be a claimant instead of a defendant , your terms and timescale not theirs. 

    If your case is good then you will win just as easily. An increase in  parking companies with lots of CCJs against them is what we need. 
    I think your advice would carry much more weight if or when we can see the result of your (ill-fated in my view) attempt at the clever Trevor manoeuvres that you are currently conjuring - against one of the most court-savvy of all parking firms - ParkingEye - who have their own in-house qualified solicitors, and have no qualms in instructing an expensive silk to 'crush' any legal challenge that threatens them.  Ask Barry Beavis. 

    Please hold back on potentially misleading advice until the outcome of your own case is known. 
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Umkomaas said:
    Terry1931 said:
    KeithP said:
    Terry1931 said:
    Not everyone is in a position to not pay then sit at home waiting for the court claim issued by the parking company against you for non payment.
    Having decided not to pay an unjust demand, why does anyone have to sit at home, or sit anywhere else, waiting for a court claim?

    Surely the rational choice, following a decision not to pay the speculative invoice, is get on with your normal life, whilst dealing with the next event - be it parking related or not?
    This forum is full of people who had that intention only to get into further aggro, grief and CCJs

    Turn the tables on the parking companies. 

    Be a claimant instead of a defendant , your terms and timescale not theirs. 

    If your case is good then you will win just as easily. An increase in  parking companies with lots of CCJs against them is what we need. 
    I think your advice would carry much more weight if or when we can see the result of your (ill-fated in my view) attempt at the clever Trevor manoeuvres that you are currently conjuring - against one of the most court-savvy of all parking firms - ParkingEye - who have their own in-house qualified solicitors, and have no qualms in instructing an expensive silk to 'crush' any legal challenge that threatens them.  Ask Barry Beavis. 

    Please hold back on potentially misleading advice until the outcome of your own case is known. 
    If Parking Eye  win as defendents then they would have won as claimants. 

    Difference is there is no CCJ against you. 
  • KeithP
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    Terry1931 said:
    Umkomaas said:
    Terry1931 said:
    KeithP said:
    Terry1931 said:
    Not everyone is in a position to not pay then sit at home waiting for the court claim issued by the parking company against you for non payment.
    Having decided not to pay an unjust demand, why does anyone have to sit at home, or sit anywhere else, waiting for a court claim?

    Surely the rational choice, following a decision not to pay the speculative invoice, is get on with your normal life, whilst dealing with the next event - be it parking related or not?
    This forum is full of people who had that intention only to get into further aggro, grief and CCJs

    Turn the tables on the parking companies. 

    Be a claimant instead of a defendant , your terms and timescale not theirs. 

    If your case is good then you will win just as easily. An increase in  parking companies with lots of CCJs against them is what we need. 
    I think your advice would carry much more weight if or when we can see the result of your (ill-fated in my view) attempt at the clever Trevor manoeuvres that you are currently conjuring - against one of the most court-savvy of all parking firms - ParkingEye - who have their own in-house qualified solicitors, and have no qualms in instructing an expensive silk to 'crush' any legal challenge that threatens them.  Ask Barry Beavis. 

    Please hold back on potentially misleading advice until the outcome of your own case is known. 
    If Parking Eye  win as defendents then they would have won as claimants. 

    Difference is there is no CCJ against you. 
    That 'difference' doesn't exist.

    If the Defendant loses and pays the amount the judge specifies in the timescale allowed, then there is no lasting CCJ anyway.
  • ***Lasting****

    More aggro to remove it. 
  • KeithP
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    Terry1931 said:
    ***Lasting****

    More aggro to remove it. 
    No. It disappears as soon as the Claimant notifies the court that he has been paid.

    Anyway, as @Umkomaas says, please do come back and enlighten us when you have proof that your revolutionary scheme works.  ;)
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