No return parking signs?

Do parking in these zones ever get enforced? I've never known or heard about it, seems like a big bluff. Especially in bigger cities. I'd be impressed if wardens are proactively clocking in and timing exactly how long everyone parks for.

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  • jimjames
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    edited 15 September 2021 at 9:55PM
    Unless you've watched your car for the entire parking time and seen that it hasn't been checked then you'll have to either risk it or comply. I'm not sure if they use cameras to monitor but in many places wardens are actively out checking parked cars.

    But if you parked in a zone that was 2 hours parking, no return within 1 hour but return after 90 mins there are plenty of possible permutations that could generate a ticket if you did park in the same/similar spot.
    Remember the saying: if it looks too good to be true it almost certainly is.
  • The reason behind no return within periods is to do with how a car's stay in a spot is monitored.  Now say you park in a spot for 2 hours and the space allows for 3 hours free parking.  It also states no return within 2 hours.  You park at 10am and leave at 12pm.  You return at 12:55 and park for a further hour.  A warden has noted down your number plate at 11am, and then notices your car there at 1315.  You get a ticket.  Because he sees the car being parked there for more than 3 hours.  
  • Ant555
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    edited 16 September 2021 at 7:55AM

    We got a parking ticket in a small village a couple of years ago.  It was a 2 hour no return, parked for 1.5 hours then moved the car 100m away, behind some shops but in another 'no return' bay for another hour.

    They said it was effectively the same parking zone and subject to no return - I cant remember the exact words.  I disputed the fact that an ordinary member of the public would know this as the new spot was on a completely different road and surely the sign refers to the bay itself and not the general area, and amazingly they cancelled it and said dont do it again, we will keep your reg on file.

    I'd be impressed if wardens are proactively clocking in and timing exactly how long everyone parks for.


    Its a small village famed for being frequented by North West Footballers though, so I would imagine it looks good to keep the riff raff moving on and allow all the flash cars to park freely!   :)
  • In my local High Street there are two or three "30 mins free - No return within 4 hours" bays with four or five cars capacity in each. The "Civil Enforcement Officers" are busy in the High Street all day, dealing with the pay and display areas (which is most of the available parking) but I have seen them monitor the free bays as well, noting the time and the vehicles parked in them.
  • Where I live we have a Controlled Parking Zone (CPZ)
    Resident parking (with permit), paper or electronic; or 2hrs free no return within one hour, some areas are only 1hr free
    The whole town is patrolled, by Civil Enforcement Officers (Traffic Wardens) they have a handheld device that is allegedly regularly updated with the electronic data, paper permit is visual
    Any vehicle not showing as having a valid permit is photographed, with particular attention to the relation of the wheels and tyre valves to any marks etc on the road.
    The wardens route typically takes just over the 2hr or 1hr allowed period, any vehicle without a permit that has not moved is issued with a ticket
    Hope the above makes sense
  • It always yes the question: the driver or the vehicle cannot return?
  • I got caught out many years ago with a 'No return within 2 hours' type parking area. I had a business meeting which overran so thinking I was doing the right thing, I moved the car before the time was up to a space further up. Hey presto ticket on windscreen when I returned. 

    I rang the Council to query why I had got a ticket and had it explained to me exactly how these type of parking areas work and I wasn't the first to be 'caught out' like this. The person then went on to say if I paid within 14 days it would be reduced to £30 and so that's what I did and thanked her for the explanation. Ironically she thanked me for being nice and understanding about the situation to which I said no point in ranting over something that was my own fault and I didn't mind having to pay a 'fair' parking fine BUT the private parking people, well that's a whole different ball game isn't it.    
  • Jenni_D
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    It always yes the question: the driver or the vehicle cannot return?
    Exactly. The vehicle is an inanimate object which can only reach a location under the control of a human. If driver A parks the vehicle at a location then driver B does likewise within the "no return" period without having known that driver A had previously parked there, how has an offence been committed?
    Jenni x
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