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Fine given after payment reversed by bank - days after parking

Hi all,

I parked at an NCP pay and display car park in Worthing a few weeks ago.  I paid at the machine using my phone.  I had a notification on my phone pop-up as I would normally do after paying this way, but didn't pay too much attention to what it said.  A ticket didn't print, but it didn't for the person in front of me either, so I assumed that it was all managed by cameras on departure, rather than having a warden who inspected tickets on dashboards.

I since have received a PCN letter from NCP.  In fact at the time of writing this I have received two, because the above happened on two seperate occassions.

Upon looking at my bank statement, I can now see that the payment was reversed by NCP, days after parking.  If I had looked closely at the message on my phone, I think it would have probably said Pending rather than Paid.  Even if I had noticed this, I doubt that I would have ever thought it would have been unsuccessful.  At that time, I had no reason to believe that my payment wouldn't go through.

I have spoken to my bank, and they have confirmed that NCP didn't accept the payment on the day, the transaction was left as Pending for a few days, and then they reversed it.  I have this in writing from them.

When trying to appeal based on the fact that I had no reason to believe my payment was unsuccessful, they rejected it saying "They had no record that I had paid that day".  As the payment wasn't successful, I guess they're right, but I can't help but feel a bit stitched up here.  I wonder if this is faulty machine and is affecting others too.

Does anyone think I have grounds to contest this further?

Many thanks,

Comments

  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 149,650 Forumite
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    edited 15 September 2021 at 3:38PM
    Yes, we’ve seen this before.  Get an email from your bank confirming that NCP returned or rejected the payment and do a POPLA appeal as the 3rd post of the NEWBIES thread tells you.

    no one pays when a PPC rejects!
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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  • D_P_Dance
    D_P_Dance Posts: 11,586 Forumite
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    Have you complained to your MP?
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • I am currently fighting the exact same battle! I have been in touch with the bank and the responsibility clearly is with the merchant. I appealed, sending them the screenshot and they still rejected it. Numerous letters and emails later and they want to take me to court! 
  • fisherjim
    fisherjim Posts: 7,021 Forumite
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    Mumm75 said:
    I am currently fighting the exact same battle! I have been in touch with the bank and the responsibility clearly is with the merchant. I appealed, sending them the screenshot and they still rejected it. Numerous letters and emails later and they want to take me to court! 

    I don't know why you have tacked on to this ancient thread, however the best place for this scam to be sorted IS in court!
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 149,650 Forumite
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    Mumm75 said:
    I am currently fighting the exact same battle! I have been in touch with the bank and the responsibility clearly is with the merchant. I appealed, sending them the screenshot and they still rejected it. Numerous letters and emails later and they want to take me to court! 
    Very good. Exactly how to sort it out.  
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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