Martin's WARNING: Your energy bill's about to JUMP by £100s - here are my 11 need-to-knows

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  • The spot price for electricity from 7.30 to 8.00 pm tonight is a staggering £2132.20 per MWh or £2.132/kWh. I suggest this, and extraordinarily  high gas prices, are the reason why Ofgem has brought two coal-fired generating stations back online. I wouldn't want to be a small and struggling energy supplier at this moment in time.
  • greenguppie
    greenguppie Posts: 173
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    edited 14 September 2021 at 12:38PM
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    I've seen it's been over £4k per MWh in recent days.
    I don't really understand it, as it can also be frequently as low as £90 per MWh (9p/kWh)

    I hope that suppliers, whatever their size, are securing their energy supplies in advance for their customers, especially for those on fixed term contracts, rather than paying spot prices.


  • QrizB
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    There are a couple of different prices in play here. The Nordpool prices are the day-ahead spot prices but there's also the balancing mechanism price. There's a correlation but they aren't the same, and the balancing price (or seems to be) is the most volatile.

    N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Go elec & Tracker gas / Shell BB / Lyca mobi. Ripple Kirk Hill member.
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  • QrizB
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    Also, I see we've now lost four suppliers in seven days. I wonder if there will be more?
    N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Go elec & Tracker gas / Shell BB / Lyca mobi. Ripple Kirk Hill member.
    2.72kWp PV facing SSW installed Jan 2012. 11 x 247w panels, 3.6kw inverter. 30MWh generated, long-term average 2.6 Os.
    Ofgem cap table, Ofgem cap explainer. Economy 7 cap explainer. Gas vs E7 vs peak elec heating costs.
  • ^
    I've seen it's been over £4k per MWh in recent days.
    I don't really understand it, as it can also be frequently as low as £90 per MWh (9p/kWh)

    I hope that suppliers, whatever their size, are securing their energy supplies in advance for their customers, especially for those on fixed term contracts, rather than paying spot prices.


    New record tonight: £2500/MWh or £2.50/kWh. Eek.
  • JJ_Egan
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    Thread title is untrue .

    Your energy bill's about to JUMP by £100s

    No its not .

  • Going to be an interesting few months. I wonder if there will be pressure on Ofgem to abolish the cap and allow the premature ending of fixed-term contracts in order to become profitable again. Early forecast of weather models suggest a colder than normal winter. How will people react with an eye-watering rise in prices that will require them to make sacrifices in either energy use or other things such as food to keep warm? Inflation is going to escalate as fuel and energy prices rise, so will the price of goods and services.

    We're going to see the clearing out of a lot of smaller suppliers with only the established, most expensive suppliers surviving. Those on the cheaper fixed-rate tariffs at the moment are in for a massive shock when the suppliers fold, as I've already seen several times in the relevant threads.
  • QrizB
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    Going to be an interesting few months. I wonder if there will be pressure on Ofgem to abolish the cap and allow the premature ending of fixed-term contracts in order to become profitable again.
    The cap is largely in Ofgem's hands, but to "allow the premature ending of fixed-term contracts" would require legislation to vary contract law. I think that's unlikely, to say the least.
    N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Go elec & Tracker gas / Shell BB / Lyca mobi. Ripple Kirk Hill member.
    2.72kWp PV facing SSW installed Jan 2012. 11 x 247w panels, 3.6kw inverter. 30MWh generated, long-term average 2.6 Os.
    Ofgem cap table, Ofgem cap explainer. Economy 7 cap explainer. Gas vs E7 vs peak elec heating costs.
  • Sea_Shell
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    Is there any legislation in place that says that any one supplier MUST offer at least one tariff for both Gas and Electricity?

    Or can they all just "no quote" like a car insurer? - effectively withdraw from "new" customers.

    Reason I ask, after reading about what happened yesterday, I went on to U-switch and was surprised to see only 15 dual fuel offers available (by only 6 suppliers).  All about £400 more pa than that which I'm currently paying.

    Usually there are pages and pages of varying offers.

    What if we try and switch, and there is literally no one offering to "quote"?


    Also, if you are a currently on a fixed tariff, can the energy company break this contract and move you to a variable, if they give you notice and, say, waive the exit fee or pay a little compensation?
    How's it going, AKA, Nutwatch? - 12 month spends to date = 2.47% of current retirement "pot" (as at end January 2024)
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