We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.
This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.
PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
Moving from fixed to periodic tenancy, do not agree with rent increase, how will it play out?
6am
Posts: 194 Forumite
The fixed tenancy will end at the start of October, landlord proposes a rent increase. Tenant does not agree and intends to stay on a periodic tenancy at the current rent. Tenant is going to buy a property in next 4 months and move out.
What happens if tenant stays on periodic tenancy and does not agree to a rent increase? I believe landlord will have to serve section 21 notice giving tenant 4 months to leave. Is my understanding correct?
Tenant intends to move in 4 months anyway and happy to pay current rent for 4 months. Will tenant be liable for the increased rent to which they did not agree? What impact will this disagreement have on the tenant's credit history?
Thank you
0
Comments
-
3
-
After end Sept s21 notice reverts to 2 months unless the Gov makes another last minute extension. However, you are not required to leave at the end of s21 notice; that is merely the possible start of proceedings which would take some significant further time. You may be liable for the cost of proceedings however.
Alternatively the L may serve s13 notice of rent increase after the periodic starts though again this will have little impact given your hoped for timescales.
There is no impact on credit history.3 -
What does the tenancy agreement say, if anything, about rent increases? If it says rent to increase by X annually, then you've already agreed to that.Otherwise, Periodic tenancyis at same rent as before. Landlord can then* do nothing and accept the same rent* serve S21 (2 months) and then go tocourt* serve S13 to increase the rentAs per slithery's post above, read my stickie.2
-
Four still...canaldumidi said:Otherwise, Periodic tenancyis at same rent as before. Landlord can then...
* serve S21 (2 months) and then go to court0 -
AdrianC said:
Four still...canaldumidi said:Otherwise, Periodic tenancyis at same rent as before. Landlord can then...
* serve S21 (2 months) and then go to court
fixed term ends "at the start of October"....
0 -
Hellocanaldumidi said:As per slithery's post above, read my stickie.
2 -
Why not discuss with landlord, tell moving out in 4 months see of they will agree to same rent extensionAn answer isn't spam just because you don't like it......0
-
The LL has 2 options if the tenant refuses any increase6am said:The fixed tenancy will end at the start of October, landlord proposes a rent increase. Tenant does not agree and intends to stay on a periodic tenancy at the current rent. Tenant is going to buy a property in next 4 months and move out.What happens if tenant stays on periodic tenancy and does not agree to a rent increase? I believe landlord will have to serve section 21 notice giving tenant 4 months to leave. Is my understanding correct? - the current plan is for S21 notice period to revert to 2 months after 30Sep21. This doesn't mean the tenant has to leave immediately, they can stay until evicted by a court which will be well past the 4 months. However the LL's court costs can be passed on to the tenant, so if this is a cost saving measure then the tenant could be worse off.Tenant intends to move in 4 months anyway and happy to pay current rent for 4 months. Will tenant be liable for the increased rent to which they did not agree? - they will be liable for the rent in force, either by agreement or by tribunal.
What impact will this disagreement have on the tenant's credit history? - none if they pay the rent in force (ie pay the increase if ratified by tribunal). If not, they may end up with a CCJ.Thank you
1. Section 13 notice to increase rent; this will give 1 month notice, after which tenant can agree, or refer to tribunal. The tribunal will then decide what is fair, and their decision is the final rent - which the tenant must pay or be sued.
2. Section 21 notice to seek possession; this will give 2 months notice (if served Oct, based on current gvt guidance) that the LL intends to go to court. Crucially,
- the tenant doesn't have to leave after 2 months, and can continue on the old rent well after the 4 months.
- However the LL can claim their court costs from the tenant, which could start to incur in 2 months.
- Tenant still has to serve their own notice unless they wait for court order, so may have an overlap and
If the overall aim is to save a bit of money, this may end up more expensive.
So for the sake of 4 months of higher rent, it might be more cost effective to work with the LL - eg "I'll pay the higher rent in exchange for less notice or agreeing a mutually convenient early termination date"2
Confirm your email address to Create Threads and Reply
Categories
- All Categories
- 352.2K Banking & Borrowing
- 253.6K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
- 454.3K Spending & Discounts
- 245.3K Work, Benefits & Business
- 601K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
- 177.5K Life & Family
- 259.1K Travel & Transport
- 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
- 16K Discuss & Feedback
- 37.7K Read-Only Boards
