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First House undisclosed neighbour dispute advice.

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  • [Deleted User]
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    edited 7 September 2021 at 5:27PM
    There is no legal obligation for the seller to declare that kind of thing unless they have had an actual dispute. If they just sold up without raising a dispute then there is nothing you can really do.

    Thing is, if it's supposed to be a place for people who are deemed ready to have a place of their own, you would think that they would be reformed and not a problem. If they were a problem and you complained they would presumably go back into the system, so have every incentive to behave.
  • "there has been a bit of an issue with noise but nothing major "

    Seems fairly standard then. 

    Look at it this way. If you do experience any issues you will have someone who runs the place to complain to, and they will have authority over the residents.

    If the house contained some generic 'nightmare neighbours' or a loud party HMO then you would be stuck.

    I would just ensure you have the contact details for whoever runs it, and if there are real issues then discuss with them.

    I lived in a rental property a while back and next door was some kind of shelter/half way house. I literally didn't even know apart from when someone who lived down the road complained that there 'might be' some crime.
  • GDB2222
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    edited 7 September 2021 at 6:34PM
    user1977 said:
    Meganw01 said:
    I have spoke to my solicitor who said this is a grey area, can anyone give any advice on what we can do or any rights we have?
    Presumably you've got some idea from what your solicitor has told you?

    Your vendor only had to disclose any disputes they've had or matters which they're aware of likely to lead to a dispute. And arguably they might not have cared about the noise - so unless you know they had actually complained in some way...
    TA6 says

    'HAVE THERE BEEN ANY DISPUTES OR COMPLAINTS REGARDING THIS PROPERTY OR A PROPERTY NEARBY?‘

    There have been many complaints about the property next door. The sellers must have known. Why aren’t they liable?
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • Lummoxley
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    edited 7 September 2021 at 6:57PM
    Meganw01 said:
    children's unit for young adults with challenging behaviour whom have been through the system, or either been young offenders. The house is used as a stepping stone for them before they are found their own property to live independently.
    This is likely a "semi-independent" residence for ages between 16-25 which is an unregulated sector. However there will be one or several local authorities involved with it so whomever is managing it will not want bad neighbourhood relationships getting back to their local authority customers (i.e. the ones placing the young people there.

    As previous posters have advised I would firstly introduce yourself to the manager and get their contact details, including email. Then let them know when you are affected, phone and email, this will enable you to evidence if the situations starts to impact you to any serious extent. If it does then contact your local authority environmental health department.

    There are thousands of such houses throughout the country, I know of at least 1000 in London. The vast majority co-exist happily with their neighbours apart from the occasional incident which to be honest you could have living next to anyone.

    Good luck in your new home.
  • user1977
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    GDB2222 said:
    user1977 said:
    Meganw01 said:
    I have spoke to my solicitor who said this is a grey area, can anyone give any advice on what we can do or any rights we have?
    Presumably you've got some idea from what your solicitor has told you?

    Your vendor only had to disclose any disputes they've had or matters which they're aware of likely to lead to a dispute. And arguably they might not have cared about the noise - so unless you know they had actually complained in some way...
    The sellers must have known.
    Must they? I don't think we know that from the OP, or that the buyer has any evidence to that effect.
  • TBG01
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    GDB2222 said:
    user1977 said:
    Meganw01 said:
    I have spoke to my solicitor who said this is a grey area, can anyone give any advice on what we can do or any rights we have?
    Presumably you've got some idea from what your solicitor has told you?

    Your vendor only had to disclose any disputes they've had or matters which they're aware of likely to lead to a dispute. And arguably they might not have cared about the noise - so unless you know they had actually complained in some way...
    TA6 says

    'HAVE THERE BEEN ANY DISPUTES OR COMPLAINTS REGARDING THIS PROPERTY OR A PROPERTY NEARBY?‘

    There have been many complaints about the property next door. The sellers must have known. Why aren’t they liable?
    How must they have known? OP wasn't aware of it until they joined a Facebook community, and as already mentioned it's disputes the vendor had. They don't need to declare Janet two doors down complaining. 
  • Lummoxley
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    edited 24 January at 4:58PM
    Thing is, if it's supposed to be a place for people who are deemed ready to have a place of their own, you would think that they would be reformed and not a problem. If they were a problem and you complained they would presumably go back into the system, so have every incentive to behave.
    A proportion of young people leaving care are involved with the criminal justice system, the same as any section of society. The majority are not and do not need to be "reformed". Instead they need support to be able to live independently from a very young age. Unlike many young people, living at home into their twenties saving a deposit, who also haven't had the early life trauma's these young people often have.

    There is no "system" for these young people to go back to, only the system for adults i.e. prison, mental health units, rehab, DV units etc. which unfortunately a significant minority do end up in, more so than young people who have never been in care. This is why we as a society should support them as much as possible.   
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