Need to replace front two tyres....

oh_really

Costco fit new to the rear by policy, its not for discussion. If that doesn't suit the customer is welcome to take their business elsewhere. Michelin advice to them were the reason.

ontheroad1970

How many miles have you done since the rears were changed? If it's not many, then is there any point in rotating them?

BOWFER

Ebe_Scrooge said:

BOWFER said:

Ebe_Scrooge said:

If Costco have it as a company policy then so be it - as long as they don't charge you any extra for swapping the existing rears to the front, then I don't see what the problem is.

Problem, for most including myself. is that if I've paid for nice new tyres I want them on the front, where they do all the work.
I don't want them on the back where all they do is keep the backside off the ground.

Trouble is, "keeping the backside off the ground" - or actually, "keeping the backside on the ground" - is rather important.  A few years ago I had a day out at a local racetrack doing a skid-control course.  Brilliant fun !  But believe me, understeer is a doddle to control compared with oversteer.  Even with an instructor sat beside me, and a whole track to myself, oversteer was bloody frightening.  Great fun when I finally got the hang of controlling it, mind - not that I'd ever want to experience it on the M6.

Yes, it does sound counter-intuitive - surely you want the best tyres on the wheels that are doing both the driving and the steering?  But there's a very good reason that it's recommended you have the best tyres on the back.

So you were on a skid control course, where they deliberately make the the ground slippy, deliberately fit bald tyres to the back and switch off any driver aids.
Hell, they sometimes even have to fit bogies under the rear wheels to make them break traction!
And you think this translates into regular road driving??
I love oversteer, I positively encourage it when I can and there's nothing more fun to me than quiet slippery roads and throwing the backside out.
But these are all deliberate scenarios and bear no relation to normal driving.
As long as your rear tyres have a decent amount of tread, accidental oversteer isn't something your average person is ever going to encounter (especially with modern stability control switched on).
But you continue fitting new tyres to the rear if you want, I'm not stopping you - I'm just glad tyre fitters don't insist on it.

scrappy_returns

Ebe_Scrooge said:

I've never come across any company insisting that new tyres go on the back - yes, it's generally accepted to be a good idea, but I've never had anyone refuse to do otherwise.

If Costco have it as a company policy then so be it - as long as they don't charge you any extra for swapping the existing rears to the front, then I don't see what the problem is.

They don't charge extra and as a whole are usually cheaper than the competition anyway so anyone boycotting them for that reason are cutting their nose of to spite their face for no benefit in light off no inconvenience (well they might take 5 minutes longer than someone that doesn't rotate front to rears)

BOWFER

scrappy_returns said:

Ebe_Scrooge said:

I've never come across any company insisting that new tyres go on the back - yes, it's generally accepted to be a good idea, but I've never had anyone refuse to do otherwise.

If Costco have it as a company policy then so be it - as long as they don't charge you any extra for swapping the existing rears to the front, then I don't see what the problem is.

They don't charge extra and as a whole are usually cheaper than the competition anyway so anyone boycotting them for that reason are cutting their nose of to spite their face for no benefit in light off no inconvenience (well they might take 5 minutes longer than someone that doesn't rotate front to rears)

Costco aren't 'all that' for tyres, they're really not.
I've just checked my size of tyres and one result @ £123 each.
Go into black circles website and there's multiple choices from £50 up.
I can also choose umpteen fitting centres near me with black circles, no having to go to them.