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Mend or Replace my laptop

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  • @Deleted_User   When it comes to the 17” laptop market things certainly ain’t what they used to be. A lack of choice and a lack of supply that’s got more acute over the last few years. Not to mention the spiralling prices.

    I’m looking to replace my (3 year old!) rapidly disintegrating HP 17” laptop with something a bit more sturdy. I reckon my HP laptop case/hinges were made from marzipan. Thank god for gaffer tape.

    I’m not a Gamer and the laptop doesn’t need to be particularly portable but this one caught my eye;...a very rapid AMD Ryzen 5 4600H processor, 8GB ram and 512GB SSD. £729 including delivery which doesn’t seem too bad given todays prices.

    https://www.very.co.uk/asus-tuf-fa706ih-h7114t-geforce-gtx-1650-ryzen-5-8gb-ram-512gb-ssd-17in-fhd-ips-120hz-gaming-laptop-black-with-mouse/1600567699.prd

    I’m rather hoping that ‘tuf’ means just that!

    I’ve never had a laptop with a backlit keyboard and I’d certainly find that particular feature very useful on occasion.I haven’t made a final decision yet though.



    Thanks - the Asus looks quite good
  • GDB2222
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    @Deleted_User   When it comes to the 17” laptop market things certainly ain’t what they used to be. A lack of choice and a lack of supply that’s got more acute over the last few years. Not to mention the spiralling prices.

    I’m looking to replace my (3 year old!) rapidly disintegrating HP 17” laptop with something a bit more sturdy. I reckon my HP laptop case/hinges were made from marzipan. Thank god for gaffer tape.

    I’m not a Gamer and the laptop doesn’t need to be particularly portable but this one caught my eye;...a very rapid AMD Ryzen 5 4600H processor, 8GB ram and 512GB SSD. £729 including delivery which doesn’t seem too bad given todays prices.

    https://www.very.co.uk/asus-tuf-fa706ih-h7114t-geforce-gtx-1650-ryzen-5-8gb-ram-512gb-ssd-17in-fhd-ips-120hz-gaming-laptop-black-with-mouse/1600567699.prd

    I’m rather hoping that ‘tuf’ means just that!

    I’ve never had a laptop with a backlit keyboard and I’d certainly find that particular feature very useful on occasion.I haven’t made a final decision yet though.



    Thanks - the Asus looks quite good
    What does all the blurb about getting £100 back mean? Is the effective price £629?
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • @Deleted_User   When it comes to the 17” laptop market things certainly ain’t what they used to be. A lack of choice and a lack of supply that’s got more acute over the last few years. Not to mention the spiralling prices.

    I’m looking to replace my (3 year old!) rapidly disintegrating HP 17” laptop with something a bit more sturdy. I reckon my HP laptop case/hinges were made from marzipan. Thank god for gaffer tape.

    I’m not a Gamer and the laptop doesn’t need to be particularly portable but this one caught my eye;...a very rapid AMD Ryzen 5 4600H processor, 8GB ram and 512GB SSD. £729 including delivery which doesn’t seem too bad given todays prices.

    https://www.very.co.uk/asus-tuf-fa706ih-h7114t-geforce-gtx-1650-ryzen-5-8gb-ram-512gb-ssd-17in-fhd-ips-120hz-gaming-laptop-black-with-mouse/1600567699.prd

    I’m rather hoping that ‘tuf’ means just that!

    I’ve never had a laptop with a backlit keyboard and I’d certainly find that particular feature very useful on occasion.I haven’t made a final decision yet though.



    Dependent on your kind of usage; the screen specification may give you pause for thought. 64% sRGB and  250-Nits is relatively poor.
    Of course if it will be used exclusively indoors and be used for tasks where colour reproduction(photos, movies) is not of importance, then you might not care about a relatively poor screen.

    That's why I highlighted a minimum spec, above, to include the screen. Gaming machine spec is more than adequate, apart from that screen.
    72% NTSC/99% sRGB and 300-Nits would be my minimum if I were spending that kind of money.
  • GDB2222 said:

    @Deleted_User   When it comes to the 17” laptop market things certainly ain’t what they used to be. A lack of choice and a lack of supply that’s got more acute over the last few years. Not to mention the spiralling prices.

    I’m looking to replace my (3 year old!) rapidly disintegrating HP 17” laptop with something a bit more sturdy. I reckon my HP laptop case/hinges were made from marzipan. Thank god for gaffer tape.

    I’m not a Gamer and the laptop doesn’t need to be particularly portable but this one caught my eye;...a very rapid AMD Ryzen 5 4600H processor, 8GB ram and 512GB SSD. £729 including delivery which doesn’t seem too bad given todays prices.

    https://www.very.co.uk/asus-tuf-fa706ih-h7114t-geforce-gtx-1650-ryzen-5-8gb-ram-512gb-ssd-17in-fhd-ips-120hz-gaming-laptop-black-with-mouse/1600567699.prd

    I’m rather hoping that ‘tuf’ means just that!

    I’ve never had a laptop with a backlit keyboard and I’d certainly find that particular feature very useful on occasion.I haven’t made a final decision yet though.



    Thanks - the Asus looks quite good
    What does all the blurb about getting £100 back mean? Is the effective price £629?
    I was going to ask the same thing myself! 
  • The battery is small - 48Wh compared to 57Wh of my 7 year old model



  • [Deleted User]
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    edited 23 August 2021 at 12:33PM
    The battery is small - 48Wh compared to 57Wh of my 7 year old model



    If battery life is important, I'd steer away from the gaming laptops as per the "cons" in my first post.

    Gaming laptops are designed to be mostly used plugged in because when they are running at full pelt on a game they can be consuming a lot of power and the battery would give barely 1 hour of run time

    For example on my gaming laptop, max CPU=45 watts GPU=60 watts - that gives me half an hour of runtime if they are maxed out - probably about an hour in real life running a high end game because it would end up throttled to stop too much power draw from the battery and the heat / damage that would cause.

    For comparison, non-gaming laptops will usually have CPU's that are max 15 watts with an integrated GPU included in that and typically be running all in about 5-10 watts for normal use.

    So as a result manufacturers don't prioritise battery capacity in gaming laptops, it is just really a convenience thing to have the battery for when the user is not gaming rather than actually trying to maximise battery run time.

    Thinking of non-gaming laptops, your 7 year old laptop will not be as efficient as a modern one in terms of power consumption, so a smaller capacity on a newer non-gaming laptop may still give you longer run times.
  • @Deleted_User   When it comes to the 17” laptop market things certainly ain’t what they used to be. A lack of choice and a lack of supply that’s got more acute over the last few years. Not to mention the spiralling prices.

    I’m looking to replace my (3 year old!) rapidly disintegrating HP 17” laptop with something a bit more sturdy. I reckon my HP laptop case/hinges were made from marzipan. Thank god for gaffer tape.

    I’m not a Gamer and the laptop doesn’t need to be particularly portable but this one caught my eye;...a very rapid AMD Ryzen 5 4600H processor, 8GB ram and 512GB SSD. £729 including delivery which doesn’t seem too bad given todays prices.

    https://www.very.co.uk/asus-tuf-fa706ih-h7114t-geforce-gtx-1650-ryzen-5-8gb-ram-512gb-ssd-17in-fhd-ips-120hz-gaming-laptop-black-with-mouse/1600567699.prd

    I’m rather hoping that ‘tuf’ means just that!

    I’ve never had a laptop with a backlit keyboard and I’d certainly find that particular feature very useful on occasion.I haven’t made a final decision yet though.



    Dependent on your kind of usage; the screen specification may give you pause for thought. 64% sRGB and  250-Nits is relatively poor.
    Of course if it will be used exclusively indoors and be used for tasks where colour reproduction(photos, movies) is not of importance, then you might not care about a relatively poor screen.

    That's why I highlighted a minimum spec, above, to include the screen. Gaming machine spec is more than adequate, apart from that screen.
    72% NTSC/99% sRGB and 300-Nits would be my minimum if I were spending that kind of money.

    Further to the above: https://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/asus-tuf-gaming-a17

    Asus TUF Gaming A17 display

    The Asus TUF Gaming A17’s 17.3-inch, 1920 x 1080 display boasts adaptive sync technology and a 120Hz refresh rate, but it’s incredibly dim and dull for a gaming laptop.


    (Image credit: Future)

    In the trailer for Bill & Ted Face The Music, the titular characters’ blue and red shirts looked washed out, as if they ran it through the wash one too many times. In the scene where Bill & Ted visit their ripped future-selves, the lighting is relatively dark for being day time, and the scene didn’t pop because the display wasn’t as bright as it should’ve been.

    In the opening cinematic of Assassin’s Creed Odyssey, Leonidas’ red cape was muted and thus made him look less bold or threatening due to the dull panel. In the same sequence, it was difficult to focus on the battle at hand, as the night-time skirmish didn't favor the Asus' dim screen. Turning down some of the settings yielded some smooth frames thanks to the 120Hz refresh rate.

    On our test, the TUF Gaming A17’s display covered 64% of the sRGB color gamut, taking a dive against the average mainstream gaming laptop (106%). The G5 15 (108%), Omen 15 (102%) and Legion Y545 (99%) were at least close to or even above 100%.

    At 248 nits of brightness, calling TUF Gaming A17 bright would be giving it too much credit. Meanwhile, the G5 15 SE (301 nits), Omen 15 (320 nits) and Legion Y545 (300 nits) all killed the 292-nit category average.

  • [Deleted User]
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    edited 24 August 2021 at 1:18PM
    The battery that I paid £49.99  for, 3 years ago is now £17.99 and comes with a 1 year warranty
    They now offer a better battery at double this - with a 2 year warranty
    Which should I buy ?


  • Cisco001
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    The battery that I paid £49.99  for, 3 years ago is now £17.99 and comes with a 1 year warranty
    They now offer a better battery at double this - with a 2 year warranty
    Which should I buy ?


    Personally would go for £17.99

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