Working on benefits

the_mixer

Does anyone work on long term PIP/ESA?

I would like to return to work, but my health isn't reliable enough to commit to full time hours for a number of reasons. I would like to do permitted work at under 14 hours, but I have heard it's a sure fire way to get called in for an assessment and lose your money.

Does anyone work part time hours and get Disability Credits which top up your wages, and are you allowed to do this longer term without much hassle from the DWP?

poppy12345

the_mixer said:

Does anyone work on long term PIP/ESA?

I would like to return to work, but my health isn't reliable enough to commit to full time hours for a number of reasons. I would like to do permitted work at under 14 hours, but I have heard it's a sure fire way to get called in for an assessment and lose your money.

Does anyone work part time hours and get Disability Credits which top up your wages, and are you allowed to do this longer term without much hassle from the DWP?

Not sure what you mean by "disability credits" there's no such benefits. There used to be disabled element part of working tax credits but unless you already claim tax credits then you can't start a new claim. All ares are now Universal Credit and the disabled part of this is LCWRA which is the same as ESA Support Group.

Regarding permited work for ESA, you need to make sure it's LESS than 16 hours per week and earn a maximum of £143 per week, anymore than this and you won't be entitled to any ESA. See link. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/employment-and-support-allowance-permitted-work-form/permitted-work-factsheet

People do permitted work without any problems, likewise people work and claim PIP without any problems. However, if the work you do contradicts the reasons why you're claiming either of those benefits then you could be re-assessed early and the decision could go against you.

DisablednProud

There are no credits, you can just work whilst claiming PIP, but the fact that you are fit enough work WILL be used against you in the re-assessments.

Nannytone

Plenty of working people claim Pip and as long as your claim doesn't contradicted the type of work you do ,then woeking WILL NOT be used against you in future assess,ents

poppy12345

DisablednProud said:

There are no credits, you can just work whilst claiming PIP, but the fact that you are fit enough work WILL be used against you in the re-assessments.

Sorry but that's not exactly correct. There's lots of people out there that claim PIP AND work. Just because a person works it does't mean they don't struggle with daily life because of a disability. Being entitled to PIP has absolutely nothing at all to do with "being fit for work"

kayaks2fish

Nannytone said:

Plenty of working people claim Pip and as long as your claim doesn't contradicted the type of work you do ,then woeking WILL NOT be used against you in future assess,ents

agree and at the same time much better to save for the rainy days!

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the_mixer said:

Does anyone work on long term PIP/ESA?

I would like to return to work, but my health isn't reliable enough to commit to full time hours for a number of reasons. I would like to do permitted work at under 14 hours, but I have heard it's a sure fire way to get called in for an assessment and lose your money.

Does anyone work part time hours and get Disability Credits which top up your wages, and are you allowed to do this longer term without much hassle from the DWP?

I worked for almost 20 years whilst claiming DLA - It is designed to pay for additional costs that a disabled person comes across during living (which,óbviously includes WORKING)

It does not, on  its own come anywhere near covering the extra costs

Doom_and_Gloom

I worked for over 5 years. Did my transition of DLA to PIP while working and got the equivalent in PIP to what my DLA had been. For PIP I receive the enhanced mobility and standard daily living with no given end date ('an on going period' I believe they call it as my disability is unlikely to ever get any better and even surgery will only slow down the progression of it);  I wasn't far off getting enhanced daily living.
My work didn't contradict my claim as my colleagues helped with things I couldn't do and when I did my transition claim they were made aware of everything.

People who wrongly say you can't claim PIP and work really do annoy me as it is clearly stated as being an in and out of work benefit. It only becomes a problem if you are doing work that contradicts the information you gave which to fair makes sense.

DisablednProud

Nannytone said:

Plenty of working people claim Pip and as long as your claim doesn't contradicted the type of work you do ,then woeking WILL NOT be used against you in future assess,ents

From personal experience, the fact that I was able to work was brought up during the assessment. Because it's evidence of my mobility, independence,  etc. (even though my condition flares up and down, so I can't hold down a job for very long most of the time, which is the main issue). 

It's not supposed to be used against you, but from my experience, it is, just indirectly. Again, that's just my experience, maybe other people have a different experience and can share their personal experience here. 

e.g. an assessor says 'Oh so you are able to walk x distance / dress yourself without assistance / commute x distance / do x independently most of the time' etc.etc. and these all play into the assessment.

poppy12345

DisablednProud said:

Nannytone said:

Plenty of working people claim Pip and as long as your claim doesn't contradicted the type of work you do ,then woeking WILL NOT be used against you in future assess,ents

From personal experience, the fact that I was able to work was brought up during the assessment. Because it's evidence of my mobility, independence,  etc. (even though my condition flares up and down, so I can't hold down a job for very long most of the time, which is the main issue). 

It's not supposed to be used against you, but from my experience, it is, just indirectly. Again, that's just my experience, maybe other people have a different experience and can share their personal experience here. 

e.g. an assessor says 'Oh so you are able to walk x distance / dress yourself without assistance / commute x distance / do x independently most of the time' etc.etc. and these all play into the assessment.

Of course working can go against you, if the work you do contradicts the reasons for your claim. For EG, if you tell them you can only walk a certain distance, yet spend all day walking round a supermarket filling the shelves.

Spoonie_Turtle

DisablednProud said:

Nannytone said:

Plenty of working people claim Pip and as long as your claim doesn't contradicted the type of work you do ,then woeking WILL NOT be used against you in future assess,ents

From personal experience, the fact that I was able to work was brought up during the assessment. Because it's evidence of my mobility, independence,  etc. (even though my condition flares up and down, so I can't hold down a job for very long most of the time, which is the main issue). 

It's not supposed to be used against you, but from my experience, it is, just indirectly. Again, that's just my experience, maybe other people have a different experience and can share their personal experience here. 

e.g. an assessor says 'Oh so you are able to walk x distance / dress yourself without assistance / commute x distance / do x independently most of the time' etc.etc. and these all play into the assessment.

Technically it should only be used to inform their assessment.  In reality, with bad assessments, it can be used against you - but so can anything, real or fictional! 

But in a completely fair, neutral assessment (as they should all be, but alas) and according to how the descriptors are addressed, it should merely be a piece of information to be considered, rather than 'counting against' someone.  If anything, any modified duties or assistance for tasks should almost lend weight to relevant areas of one's claim.