4 week notice period

DontBringBertie

Hoping someone on here may know the answer to this…

I’m shortly going to be resigning from my job and my notice period is 4 weeks. Office based work Monday - Friday for the public sector.

- Can my last day of employment be on a weekend? i.e. if I hand in my notice this week, could it end on Sunday 12th September?

That way I’d be paid for 2 extra days…

avawat20

Yes. I would always advise people do that, especially if you work somewhere with continuous service and are transferring to somewhere else that accepts it!

Chop-D

If it’s local government, each time I’ve moved my last contracted day has been a Sunday, but actually finishing work on the Friday so that seems to be the norm 

DontBringBertie

Thanks both.

At least the extra 2 days’ pay (plus the payment for untaken leave) will make up for the pay freeze earlier this year…

[Deleted User]

How do you get an extra two days pay if you work Monday to Friday? 

DontBringBertie

MarkN88 said:

How do you get an extra two days pay if you work Monday to Friday? 

Because the pay (yearly salary) is based on calendar days not working days.

Manxman_in_exile

MarkN88 said:

How do you get an extra two days pay if you work Monday to Friday? 

DontBringBertie said:

MarkN88 said:

How do you get an extra two days pay if you work Monday to Friday? 

Because the pay (yearly salary) is based on calendar days not working days.

Don'tBringBertie is almost but not quite correct.  

If the OP's public sector post has an annual salary, then they will probably be paid monthly (annual salary divided by twelve months) and then within each month they will be paid according to the number of calendar days in that month.  So that means that each month's pay is equal and does not change from month to month. But depending on the number of calendar days in a particular month, days in some months are worth more than others.  So days in February are worth more in terms of salary than days in months with 30 days, and days in 30 day months are worth more than days in 31 day months.  But this is only really of any significance when employees either don't start or end at the beginning or end of a month.

MarkN88 - you get paid for unworked weekends in the public sector because your monthly salary (your annual salary divided by twelve) is spread across all the days in a month, not just working days.  Public sector workers don't get paid more in that respect - they actually get paid less per working day, but they also get paid for days in a month not worked.  As I say above, it's only really important when people start or leave in the middle of a month and a starter or leaver adjustment needs to be made.

The golden rule in the public sector is always leave a post on the day immediately before you start a new post, even if that makes your leaving day a Sunday.  It makes everything a lot simpler.

(It's probably because I worked nearly all my life in the public sector and am familiar with how the public sector works, but I find annual salary schemes based on actual days worked unnecessarily complicated.  Even the private sector jobs I've had were paid on months and then calendar days - never actual days worked).

Jillanddy

Manxman_in_exile said:

MarkN88 said:

How do you get an extra two days pay if you work Monday to Friday? 

DontBringBertie said:

MarkN88 said:

How do you get an extra two days pay if you work Monday to Friday? 

Because the pay (yearly salary) is based on calendar days not working days.

Don'tBringBertie is almost but not quite correct.  

If the OP's public sector post has an annual salary, then they will probably be paid monthly (annual salary divided by twelve months) and then within each month they will be paid according to the number of calendar days in that month.  So that means that each month's pay is equal and does not change from month to month. But depending on the number of calendar days in a particular month, days in some months are worth more than others.  So days in February are worth more in terms of salary than days in months with 30 days, and days in 30 day months are worth more than days in 31 day months.  But this is only really of any significance when employees either don't start or end at the beginning or end of a month.

MarkN88 - you get paid for unworked weekends in the public sector because your monthly salary (your annual salary divided by twelve) is spread across all the days in a month, not just working days.  Public sector workers don't get paid more in that respect - they actually get paid less per working day, but they also get paid for days in a month not worked.  As I say above, it's only really important when people start or leave in the middle of a month and a starter or leaver adjustment needs to be made.

The golden rule in the public sector is always leave a post on the day immediately before you start a new post, even if that makes your leaving day a Sunday.  It makes everything a lot simpler.

(It's probably because I worked nearly all my life in the public sector and am familiar with how the public sector works, but I find annual salary schemes based on actual days worked unnecessarily complicated.  Even the private sector jobs I've had were paid on months and then calendar days - never actual days worked).

I work in the public sector and have all my life. And my employer and many others do not work like that at all. It is sweeping to say they all do - actually you may be correct but I don't know of any that currently do. For many employers that method was altered many years ago - as a response to public sector strikes, so that tells you how long ago it was! It made the effect of striking more costly to employees as the deductions for a working day and pension catch-up was higher. So resigning on a Friday or a Sunday would make no difference at all where I work, nor anywhere else that I know of. Our salaries are spread across the normal working days in the year and then divided by 12.

The_Unready

I work for the public sector and have recently been looking at resigning/retiring. My department's (MOD) resignation policy states that the last day of service for resignation has to be a weekday. You may want to check if yours is similar.

74jax

Jillanddy said:

Manxman_in_exile said:

MarkN88 said:

How do you get an extra two days pay if you work Monday to Friday? 

DontBringBertie said:

MarkN88 said:

How do you get an extra two days pay if you work Monday to Friday? 

Because the pay (yearly salary) is based on calendar days not working days.

Don'tBringBertie is almost but not quite correct.  

If the OP's public sector post has an annual salary, then they will probably be paid monthly (annual salary divided by twelve months) and then within each month they will be paid according to the number of calendar days in that month.  So that means that each month's pay is equal and does not change from month to month. But depending on the number of calendar days in a particular month, days in some months are worth more than others.  So days in February are worth more in terms of salary than days in months with 30 days, and days in 30 day months are worth more than days in 31 day months.  But this is only really of any significance when employees either don't start or end at the beginning or end of a month.

MarkN88 - you get paid for unworked weekends in the public sector because your monthly salary (your annual salary divided by twelve) is spread across all the days in a month, not just working days.  Public sector workers don't get paid more in that respect - they actually get paid less per working day, but they also get paid for days in a month not worked.  As I say above, it's only really important when people start or leave in the middle of a month and a starter or leaver adjustment needs to be made.

The golden rule in the public sector is always leave a post on the day immediately before you start a new post, even if that makes your leaving day a Sunday.  It makes everything a lot simpler.

(It's probably because I worked nearly all my life in the public sector and am familiar with how the public sector works, but I find annual salary schemes based on actual days worked unnecessarily complicated.  Even the private sector jobs I've had were paid on months and then calendar days - never actual days worked).

I work in the public sector and have all my life. And my employer and many others do not work like that at all. It is sweeping to say they all do - actually you may be correct but I don't know of any that currently do. For many employers that method was altered many years ago - as a response to public sector strikes, so that tells you how long ago it was! It made the effect of striking more costly to employees as the deductions for a working day and pension catch-up was higher. So resigning on a Friday or a Sunday would make no difference at all where I work, nor anywhere else that I know of. Our salaries are spread across the normal working days in the year and then divided by 12.

Exactly? So a day in February is worth more than a day in another month. Which is the point being made in the post you quoted.

I have no idea what this means you commented : 

It is sweeping to say they all do - actually you may be correct but I don't know of any that currently do

(is it correct, is it not, or do you not know - in which case why mention it) 

DontBringBertie

The_Unready said:

I work for the public sector and have recently been looking at resigning/retiring. My department's (MOD) resignation policy states that the last day of service for resignation has to be a weekday. You may want to check if yours is similar.

I did have a look yesterday but there’s nothing to say it has to be a weekday.

Some of the old ‘civil service’ contract staff had before 2014 may have said it. But anyone who joined after that has different contracts, which are effectively based on a private sector one. 

So you don’t get a civil service pension or increased annual leave but you do get a pay freeze!