installing my boiler, advice please

matty_hunt

EliteHeat wrote: »

There are no options on the form to say "I have just installed the gas line".

The purpose of my post was to find out what work I could or could not do and still get the corgi certificate. I assumed it was law to have a certificate and that the only way to get that is by a corgi engineer. I also assumed it related to connecting the gas and making sure the boiler worked without leaking harmful gases, not the installation of the boiler itself. I thought once the gas was connected and the boiler switched on, a peice of equipment would detect toxic gases or not. If not, the boiler is installed correctly, the certificate issued.

So, if I make the hole in the wall for the flue, unpack the boiler and leave it on the floor next to where it is needed, but reroute all the pipe work (except gas) change rads, flush system myself and have the innhibitor ready, that would be ok for a corgi guy to fit the boiler, connect gas and certificate?

tomstickland

I installed a combi boiler with a friend. I connected up all of the pipework. It was then pressure tested with a manometer by a friend of his. That was 8 years ago and it's still running fine.
I've no idea what certification he did or needed to do.
I understand the need for regulation after having seen some wonderfully botched electrical work, however, I don't subscribe to the 2007 school of thought that everything is dangerous and noone should be allowed to do anything.

EliteHeat

matty_hunt wrote: »

So, if I make the hole in the wall for the flue, unpack the boiler and leave it on the floor next to where it is needed, but reroute all the pipe work (except gas) change rads, flush system myself and have the innhibitor ready, that would be ok for a corgi guy to fit the boiler, connect gas and certificate?

Yes, all of that is OK and legal as far as the corgi is concerned. Good luck with the project.

EliteHeat

tomstickland wrote: »

I've no idea what certification he did or needed to do.

There was no requirement or central facility to register installations 8 years ago. This is all in the name of progress you understand, and nothing to do with generating money for the [strike]utterly useless[/strike] fine upstanding corgi organisation.

tomstickland wrote: »

..... however, I don't subscribe to the 2007 school of thought that everything is dangerous and noone should be allowed to do anything.

Neither do I, but when my license is on the line, I know whose side I am going to be on.

matty_hunt

thanks guys for your help and input.

tomstickland

Neither do I, but when my license is on the line, I know whose side I am going to be on.

Yes, I can understand that. It's one thing to do your own installation, it's another to ask someone to come along and certify it as their own work.

cajef

espresso wrote: »

Lots of DIYers service and maintain their own vehicles, even full engine rebuilds which have nothing to do with if it's roadworthy, the annual MOT determines that. It's understandable why DIYers do their own installations, if this is the response that they get from the so called professional engineers!

Erm where did i say that DIYers where not capable of doing the work themselves, yes I have stripped engines down and rebuilt them myself but I also seen the bodged work done my some people and I would not ask a garage to stamp a service book for work they had not done, just as I would not expect someone to issue a certificate for something that they could be held responsible for if they were not sure whether the work had been done to specification.

espresso

cajef wrote: »

Erm where did i say that DIYers where not capable of doing the work themselves, yes I have stripped engines down and rebuilt them myself but I also seen the bodged work done my some people and I would not ask a garage to stamp a service book for work they had not done, just as I would not expect someone to issue a certificate for something that they could be held responsible for if they were not sure whether the work had been done to specification.

cajef wrote: »

Would seem to me a bit like someone servicing their own car than asking a garage to sign the service book to say it has been done properly, it may be working but is it roadworthy.

A worthless stamp in a service book does not make a garage serviced car any more roadworthy, similarly corgi certification does not guarantee the quality or safety of a boiler installation.

The OP was simply looking for clarification about doing 98% of his central heating installation himself! If you want to use a corgi engineer, that's your choice but just like the part P regs, it does not make an installation any safer.

:rolleyes:

cajef

espresso wrote: »

A worthless stamp in a service book does not make a garage serviced car any more roadworthy, similarly corgi certification does not guarantee the quality or safety of a boiler installation.

Where did I say that, once again you are taking things out of context, , what you cannot seem to understand is that all I am saying is you cannot expect someone to issue a certificate for work they have not done themselves, when by doing so they are risking losing there corgi registration and putting their livelihood at risk.:rolleyes:

budgetflyer

matty_hunt wrote: »

I am competent at installing the boiler myself, but not connecting the gas.

Thats the whole point.
Who measures your competence ? Your self ? wife ? mum ? dad ?
You may think you are "competent" but can you PROVE IT ? By what benchmark have you measured your competence in location , design of instalation ie flue, even b4 you start connecting the water pipes. You also have the electrics and upgrading of existing controls to consider to meet current standards. Its not just about soldering and testing 30ft of copper pipe ! A CORGI man can PROVE competence- that is the difference.