We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
The Forum now has a brand new text editor, adding a bunch of handy features to use when creating posts. Read more in our how-to guide

First Direct, Halifax - DIsplay of 'desktop-based' online banking pending transaction info.

Hi,
Can anyone tell me whether the desktop-based not the 'Smartphone-App-based' portals of these banks, display 'pending transaction' data.

Also, can anyone tell me whether they operate on 'presentment file' or 'real-time auth', for debit card transactions.

Thanks.
«1

Comments

  • Vortigern
    Vortigern Posts: 3,312 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    Yes, for First Direct, the desktop version displays pending transactions. At the moment I can see a DD that is due tomorrow.
    This DD has not yet reduced my cleared balance.
    I believe a pending debit card transaction would reduce the cleared balance, but I have none of those just now.

    HTH
  • colsten
    colsten Posts: 17,596 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Seventh Anniversary Photogenic Name Dropper


    Also, can anyone tell me whether they operate on 'presentment file' or 'real-time auth', for debit card transactions.


    Like all banks, they process transactions when they get reported by the retailers. Whilst this happens in many/most cases at the time you make your purchase, there are situations in which there could be a delay. E.g. if you are outside a network area (aeroplane, for instance) or if the retailers batches up transactions and submits them hours, or even days, after the purchase. Pay At Pump petrol purchases, for instance, often show with a delay.
  • colsten said:


    Also, can anyone tell me whether they operate on 'presentment file' or 'real-time auth', for debit card transactions.


    Like all banks, they process transactions when they get reported by the retailers. Whilst this happens in many/most cases at the time you make your purchase, there are situations in which there could be a delay. E.g. if you are outside a network area (aeroplane, for instance) or if the retailers batches up transactions and submits them hours, or even days, after the purchase. Pay At Pump petrol purchases, for instance, often show with a delay.

    Oh dear!

    So they  don't check to see if i have sufficent funds to cover the transaction first? :)

  • colsten
    colsten Posts: 17,596 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Seventh Anniversary Photogenic Name Dropper
    If there is no network connection, they can‘t check

    in most cases, there is a connection, and retailers won‘t normally sell you anything w/o obtaining approval from the bank. Note that approval isn‘t the same as you having the funds - your bank might approve even if you go overdrawn (arranged or unarranged)
  • I see. You appear to be describing a rather vague, inconsistent procedure, when of course in this day and age, it really shouldn't be. Which is why i asked the above question, as certain 'new' banks do appear to work to 'Real-Time-Auth'.

    Given that, can you please answer my original question please?

    Also, does anyone know how to view a demo of each banks 'online banking website', as  i've looked on each banks main websites, and not found anything. I've even looked on yootoob.
  • colsten
    colsten Posts: 17,596 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Seventh Anniversary Photogenic Name Dropper
    It isn‘t rather vague. It‘s how it works.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0 Newbie
    100 Posts Second Anniversary Name Dropper
    edited 2 August 2021 at 11:03AM
    colsten said:

    Like all banks, they process transactions when they get reported by the retailers. Whilst this happens in many/most cases at the time you make your purchase, there are situations in which there could be a delay. E.g. if you are outside a network area (aeroplane, for instance) or if the retailers batches up transactions and submits them 
    colsten said:
    If there is no network connection, they can‘t check

    in most cases, there is a connection, and retailers won‘t normally sell you anything w/o obtaining approval from the bank. Note that approval isn‘t the same as you having the funds - your bank might approve even if you go overdrawn (arranged or unarranged)
    s, after the purchase. Pay At Pump petrol purchases, for instance, often show with a delay.
    If that isn't vague, i don't know what is!

    This is precise:-


  • Eco_Miser
    Eco_Miser Posts: 5,059 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    Actually, it's just as vague, but uses ''usually'  instead of 'many/most' and 'sometimes' instead of 'could', and is much more long-winded.
    Eco Miser
    Saving money for well over half a century
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0 Newbie
    100 Posts Second Anniversary Name Dropper
    edited 2 August 2021 at 4:04PM
    Thankyou for your comments. No-one except Vortigern had the intelligence to read my question, and attempt to answer it.

    Not suprising from this forum tbh.

    Goodbye :)

Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 354.3K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.4K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 455.4K Spending & Discounts
  • 247.2K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 603.9K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 178.4K Life & Family
  • 261.4K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.