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CGT when selling shares - Must declare if under the allowance?
Wilde00
Posts: 14 Forumite
Hi all, I read tons of messages on this topic but I still have doubts
Please bear with me...
Situation
- I own 2000 shares of my company (1300 of it were stock options, and the other 700 are ESPP-RSU, once it became public).
- I am based in London but the company HQ is in the USA
- When I joined pre-IPO, my stock options award price was 6$. When I exercised the stock options, the price was 30$ (and I did "sell to cover"...so lots of shares were used to buy the stock options)
- The current value is 33$, and I've decided to sell everything.
Questions-Doubts
1) My capital gain are different depending on the type of shares?
Example:
- For the 1300 stock options awarded at 6$ and exercised at 30$, I have 24$ of profit per share? Or I have to consider the current value of 33$ and therefore I have 27$ profit per share? Or since i exercised at 30$, the profit is currently 3$?
- For the 700 shares given at a later stage, do I need to calculate the value at the time of the shares received, and consider the current 33$ price?
I understand that this is a first world problem, but after spending more than half of the total value in paying taxing while exercising options, it seems insane that I have to pay again a ton of taxes , on the same asset, for the second time.
2) if you stay under the annual allowance, do you still have to declare this sale in your tax assessment?
I guess the big question is: how can I maximise my cash return and minimise taxes, considering I already paid taxes when I received shares and exercised the options? Any help from someone that passed through the same experience would be super helpful...
Thank you all as usual
Situation
- I own 2000 shares of my company (1300 of it were stock options, and the other 700 are ESPP-RSU, once it became public).
- I am based in London but the company HQ is in the USA
- When I joined pre-IPO, my stock options award price was 6$. When I exercised the stock options, the price was 30$ (and I did "sell to cover"...so lots of shares were used to buy the stock options)
- The current value is 33$, and I've decided to sell everything.
Questions-Doubts
1) My capital gain are different depending on the type of shares?
Example:
- For the 1300 stock options awarded at 6$ and exercised at 30$, I have 24$ of profit per share? Or I have to consider the current value of 33$ and therefore I have 27$ profit per share? Or since i exercised at 30$, the profit is currently 3$?
- For the 700 shares given at a later stage, do I need to calculate the value at the time of the shares received, and consider the current 33$ price?
I understand that this is a first world problem, but after spending more than half of the total value in paying taxing while exercising options, it seems insane that I have to pay again a ton of taxes , on the same asset, for the second time.
2) if you stay under the annual allowance, do you still have to declare this sale in your tax assessment?
I guess the big question is: how can I maximise my cash return and minimise taxes, considering I already paid taxes when I received shares and exercised the options? Any help from someone that passed through the same experience would be super helpful...
Thank you all as usual
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Comments
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You have to do the maths using Pounds £.0
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If the US is anything like the UK then company share schemes can be very complex, but often have favourable tax treatment. I think you'd be best asking your employer for more info on the specific scheme. For example I recently sold shares in an EMI, SIP and Growth scheme, all had different rules and nuances.0
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