Avoid overspending at Shell petrol station

AdrianC

Biggus_Dickus said:

there’ll probably be an array of different EV charging plugs to choose from.

‘Wind-farm leccy’...’Solar generated leccy’...’Nuclear generated leccy’...’Sustainable wood pellet leccy’...et al.

They’ll be differently priced and offer different performance in terms of speed and economy. I reckon ‘Nuclear generated’ will be the most expensive because it’ll be higher quality leccy (faster electrons) and give you much quicker acceleration. 

Sustainable wood pellet leccy will no doubt be the cheapest,...but the downside of wood pellet leccy is that it’s thought to cause long-term battery contamination issues.

You do know that's not actually how the National Grid works, right?

You don't get to pick and choose what electricity comes out of your sockets, no matter how much greenwash the providers throw at you. You might be on a bunny-hug tariff, but you may well get fossil-fired electrickery if that's what's coming down the wires.

The green tariffs simply have the providers promising to put at least as much renewable into the grid as you take out. Since renewables are currently damn near 45% of the power in the grid, and green tariffs are a FAR lower proportion of the market than that, it's no more than fluff and volunteering to pay more...

onlyfoolsandparking

AdrianC said:

Biggus_Dickus said:

there’ll probably be an array of different EV charging plugs to choose from.

‘Wind-farm leccy’...’Solar generated leccy’...’Nuclear generated leccy’...’Sustainable wood pellet leccy’...et al.

They’ll be differently priced and offer different performance in terms of speed and economy. I reckon ‘Nuclear generated’ will be the most expensive because it’ll be higher quality leccy (faster electrons) and give you much quicker acceleration. 

Sustainable wood pellet leccy will no doubt be the cheapest,...but the downside of wood pellet leccy is that it’s thought to cause long-term battery contamination issues.

You do know that's not actually how the National Grid works, right?

You don't get to pick and choose what electricity comes out of your sockets, no matter how much greenwash the providers throw at you. You might be on a bunny-hug tariff, but you may well get fossil-fired electrickery if that's what's coming down the wires.

The green tariffs simply have the providers promising to put at least as much renewable into the grid as you take out. Since renewables are currently damn near 45% of the power in the grid, and green tariffs are a FAR lower proportion of the market than that, it's no more than fluff and volunteering to pay more...

I see your sense of humour bypass operation was a complete success 

DMccoy

AdrianC said:

People who might think the green pump is leaded petrol...? In 2021...?

That's not likely to be particularly new signage - they're not going to be changing 95E5 labelling now, not with 95E10 just round the corner. The requirement to add "E5" came in two years ago, September 2019, in advance prep for E10.

A lot of car fuel caps now say “Unleaded” so I can imagine people using the more expensive fuel to be sure simply because they’re looking for unleaded petrol.  A lot would assume that “petrol” and “unleaded petrol” are different.

This is clearly Shell being crafty and I’m sure it’ll work.  

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The real "scam" is one bank of pumps at my local Shell only has a V-Power pump for diesel. I wonder how many folk end up filling up and paying the premium when they weren't intending to fill up with V-Power.   

AdrianC

DMccoy said:

AdrianC said:

People who might think the green pump is leaded petrol...? In 2021...?

That's not likely to be particularly new signage - they're not going to be changing 95E5 labelling now, not with 95E10 just round the corner. The requirement to add "E5" came in two years ago, September 2019, in advance prep for E10.

A lot of car fuel caps now say “Unleaded” so I can imagine people using the more expensive fuel to be sure simply because they’re looking for unleaded petrol.  A lot would assume that “petrol” and “unleaded petrol” are different.

If petrol isn't "unleaded", it must surely be... leaded. Right?

Semi-leaded? Well, that was that short-lived LRP...

DMccoy

AdrianC said:

DMccoy said:

AdrianC said:

People who might think the green pump is leaded petrol...? In 2021...?

That's not likely to be particularly new signage - they're not going to be changing 95E5 labelling now, not with 95E10 just round the corner. The requirement to add "E5" came in two years ago, September 2019, in advance prep for E10.

A lot of car fuel caps now say “Unleaded” so I can imagine people using the more expensive fuel to be sure simply because they’re looking for unleaded petrol.  A lot would assume that “petrol” and “unleaded petrol” are different.

If petrol isn't "unleaded", it must surely be... leaded. Right?

Semi-leaded? Well, that was that short-lived LRP...

If one pump is labelled “petrol” and one is labelled “unleaded petrol” then it’s sensible to assume they’re different.

Otherwise they’d both be labelled unleaded petrol.

We’re savvy and know that all petrol ata forecourt is unleaded, but there’ll be millions of drivers who won’t have a clue.

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photome

daveyjp said:

Never noticed 'unleaded' on any pump I've used recently.  Not a concern as its been unleaded for decades.

A few years ago BP had what they thought was a great idea to use their corporate green for all their pump handles and pipework, with very subtle changes for petrol and diesel, normal and super etc.  No doubt the increase in misfuels made them realise marketing shouldn't make such decisions and have gone back to green for petrol, black for diesel.

I did use a triggerless pump at a Shell station recently.  I pity the staff dealing with those whose minds are blown by such a novel concept.

What is a triggerless pump

AdrianC

photome said:

daveyjp said:

I did use a triggerless pump at a Shell station recently.  I pity the staff dealing with those whose minds are blown by such a novel concept.

What is a triggerless pump

I'm going to assume it's a pump... without the usual trigger.

Quite how that would work across the majority of vehicles with normal unleaded-diameter fillers, older larger-diameter ones, motorbikes, jerry cans... I'd be quite interested to see.

Marvel1

BOWFER said:

This isn't a problem ,what is a problem is how difficult it is to get bloody pumps to stop on a round figure now.
"Oooh...£30 is coming....slow right down.....97...98.....01 DAMMIT!!!!"
Garages around here are even acknowledging the problem by either dismissing the extra penny, or having a wee tub of change that people donate to and others can dip into for the extra 1p.

Card payment solves the issue, I just stop when it's full.