Holiday pay for 0 hour contract

General_Grant

f5morg said:

General_Grant said:

f5morg said:

On one of the zero hours contract I had the holiday pay was part of the hourly pay, i.e. hourly rate plus a little more on top, perhaps because it is hard to calculate any other way

That is what is known as "rolled-up" holiday pay - ie holiday pay is rolled up into the hourly rate.
Perhaps your zero hours contract was some years ago as that has not been lawful for a long time.

Interesting...no, it was actually very recent. Here is the exact wording in contract. It was zero hours.
"You will be paid only for hours actually worked at the rate of £12.11 per hour. This amount will be made up of £10.81 per hour of basic pay and £1.30 per hour of holiday pay"
So this is illegal? Is there a website/page that details this you could link me to?

case law , eg google     "  2006    Robinson-Steele v PD Retail Services  "

getmore4less

In practice because an employer can dictate when holiday is taken the pay can be structured to stop any holiday pay that's due being carried over a pay period which achieves the same as rolled up.

General_Grant

getmore4less said:

In practice because an employer can dictate when holiday is taken the pay can be structured to stop any holiday pay that's due being carried over a pay period which achieves the same as rolled up.

But it is supposed to be shown separately on payslips.

f5morg

General_Grant said:

getmore4less said:

In practice because an employer can dictate when holiday is taken the pay can be structured to stop any holiday pay that's due being carried over a pay period which achieves the same as rolled up.

But it is supposed to be shown separately on payslips.

Personally mine was separated on my payslip and they were upfront in the contract, so perhaps in that sense they haven't crossed the boundary. There must be many companies doing this though, I guess it is not a priority for hmrc/government to enforce. The company I am referring had 800 employees roughly, not sure if casuals are included in that

getmore4less

General_Grant said:

getmore4less said:

In practice because an employer can dictate when holiday is taken the pay can be structured to stop any holiday pay that's due being carried over a pay period which achieves the same as rolled up.

But it is supposed to be shown separately on payslips.

That's what structured means it's just a paper exercise.

NHS was happy with this method a while back no idea if they still do.

General_Grant

getmore4less said:

General_Grant said:

getmore4less said:

In practice because an employer can dictate when holiday is taken the pay can be structured to stop any holiday pay that's due being carried over a pay period which achieves the same as rolled up.

But it is supposed to be shown separately on payslips.

That's what structured means it's just a paper exercise.

NHS was happy with this method a while back no idea if they still do.

That's what you meant by "structured".  It wasn't how f5morg was suggesting was the structure as they said the  "the holiday pay was part of the hourly pay".