CONSERVATORY/BOUNDARY/RIGHT OF WAY

Doozergirl

hazyjo said:

I wonder whether Anglian have ordered the wrong door and are now doing their best to talk you round...

As above, I would get that area blocked pronto.

Of course they have!  And they're trying to make their problem the OP's problem.    It's disgusting behaviour.  They should go back to the drawing board and not even bother the OP.    

There are times to be polite with people and, frankly, this would not be one of them for me.  I would very happily tell Anglian to foxtrot oscar and mind their own business, literally.  Not my circus, not my monkeys.  

Norman_Castle

KEMYST said:

Ahhh yes, I`m not an expert by any means but I think that having the door opening inwards may have many ramifications to the internal design of the conservatory. All this could have been avoided if they had not run roughshod and had some respect for us.

Thats not your problem and presuming it can be solved by opening the door onto your land is nonsense. Try storing your bins in their garden, explain having them in yours is inconvenient.

Have you spoken to the neighbour again about this?

Davesnave

I agree with getting legal backing, which will be seen to carry more weight, but only if pleasant negotiation with the neighbour fails. I wouldn't talk to the manager at all.

OP is not objecting to an inward opening door, but one swinging over their  property has no right to go there. Neighbour may need convincing, but ultimately it will be to their advantage not getting into a dispute they must lose because the law is clear on this matter.

If they install the door, that's accepting it and they'll have no come-back later against the conservatory company if forced to change things. They need to be aware of this.

Soot2006

GDB2222 said:

If they have a right of way, can you really block it with a concrete planter?

I would try to avoid a long dispute, which would be costly, whether you win or lose, and the best way to do that is to consult a solicitor now, rather than getting legal advice from a bunch of strangers on the internet. 

Doesn't even need to be a planter -- a little concrete ledge/step, easy stepped on / over by a human, but just high enough to stop a door from opening would be my personal choice here. Even a wooden sleeper bolted to the floor would do the job and could be done quickly and cheaply.

Princessa_2

Are they planing on just being rid of the gate or are they moving it back onto your land?

bouicca21

Plus one for a solicitor’s letter.  

Chandler85

Put a gate, at the same level as there conservatory door, that opens towards the conservatory, so would open into their land.  Might highlight the issue pretty well...

Alternatively just build a fence and put the gap in the same place that is as wide as a narrow door, so the normal conservatory door won't open through it but you aren't obstructing the right of way.

GDB2222

Soot2006 said:

GDB2222 said:

If they have a right of way, can you really block it with a concrete planter?

I would try to avoid a long dispute, which would be costly, whether you win or lose, and the best way to do that is to consult a solicitor now, rather than getting legal advice from a bunch of strangers on the internet. 

Doesn't even need to be a planter -- a little concrete ledge/step, easy stepped on / over by a human, but just high enough to stop a door from opening would be my personal choice here. Even a wooden sleeper bolted to the floor would do the job and could be done quickly and cheaply.

The purpose of employing a solicitor is to avoid a lengthy dispute - preferably whilst preserving some sort of cordial-ish relationship with the neighbour. 

It might eventually come down to erecting some sort of physical barrier that makes life difficult for the neighbour, but I'd certainly be exploring alternatives first. 

KEMYST

We had a conversation with our solicitor this afternoon. She wants to discuss the ramifications of the issue with another solicitor. Ringing back tomorrow. I have to confess that I am a worrier. I would have thought after all the help and reading that I have had and done that it would be impossible for the door to be allowed (trespass) outwards. So I can`t see a reason why the solicitor should hesitate at all. We shall see.......

We had a fabricator here this afternoon who offered to build us a gate and install it on out boundary for £500. This would be money well spent I think.

HampshireH

Lewistr11 said:

I work at a windows and door company (not Anglian) and I can tell you now that the manager should be having no involvement in what you and your neighbours agree to, he is simply trying to secure the sale and earn his commission. Don't involve him in anything.

The manager should not be overseeing a door being installed and opening onto someone else's land.

He involved himself by agreeing to it and then approaching the OP about it.

If he shouldn't be involved why did he approach the OP in the first place surely he would have told the owners to do it himself.

This manager is already involved.