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  • Type_45
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    Type_45 said:
    lozzy1965 said:
    Type_45 said:

    I completely agree with you.  The mistake you've made is to use this forum to discuss the subject.  It's the wrong crowd.


    I hold some crytpo (a few grand).  But it's clear to me that the powers-that-be don't like it.  I've been of the opinion for some time that it will be snuffed out in favour of Central Bank Digital Currencies.


    Anyone who can't see the way the world is headed right now clearly has issues.  The direction of travel is that we are being more controlled and will have less freedoms going forward.  And it is technology which is enabling this process.  


    And if you think being stopped from buying crypto via Barclays is a liberty, think of it as just a taster of what is to come.
    Type_45 said:
    IanManc said:

    I doubt Barclays will miss you.

    Not the first time I've noted that you've crossed the line and been unnecessarily rude.  And to a new member, too.

    Ha ha, not the first time you have peddled your conspiracy theories either :)

    I agree with the unnecessary rudeness though!

    The trouble is, when people with a minority opinion think they are the ones who have the world sussed.  That's when problems start!

    You can comment on my statement that "if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear" now...
    Funnily enough, I've just this minute read the headline:  "EU to exempt Private Jets from fuel tax".

    But you still can't join the dots, can you...


    The problem is that many dots aren’t joined, and so anyone joining them is just drawing what they see in their head.

    Conspiracy theorists do at least normally have the sense to never come out and say what they are seeing, or predicting, so they never can be wrong.

    In this case, what is it that you think is coming over the horizon, and what do you think fuel tax on jets has to do with it?

    What is happening is a massive power and money grab by the people who rule the world.  ie, the tech giants, big pharma, numerous billionaires, supra-national organisations (IMF, UN, EU etc) and the national governments (who in reality are puppets who only last a few years).

    And whilst all of the above are richer and/or more powerful now by orders of magnitude than they were before Covid, you'll notice that ordinary people are poorer, less free and suffering.  

    But you probably don't see it that way because you get your information from the media organisations which the people getting richer own.  

    If you can't see you are being played then you brainwashing and propaganda has worked on you.


    Do you think it's a coincidence that Google became a pharmaceutical company in 2019...  and were at the time funding the Covid researchers working in Wuhan who allowed the virus to escape...  and who's profits then rose 162% during lockdowns....   and all the while they are in complete control of what people see when they "google" for what's going on?


    If you can't see that you are being played, and that this is all about power and money, and that the billions of ordinary people are nothing more than a commodity for the 1% then I really can't help you.
  • Type_45
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    Regarding the fuel tax exemption for private jets:  see the G7 meeting in Cornwall when the world leaders were openly flouting the Covid rules they tell us to obey.

    The rules (and taxes) do not apply to the elites.  And they don't even care to conceal it anymore, which is the frightening part.
  • eskbanker
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    Type_45 said:
    What is happening is a massive power and money grab by the people who rule the world.  ie, the tech giants, big pharma, numerous billionaires, supra-national organisations (IMF, UN, EU etc) and the national governments (who in reality are puppets who only last a few years).

    And whilst all of the above are richer and/or more powerful now by orders of magnitude than they were before Covid [...]
    Orders (plural) of magnitude means at least a multiple of a hundred, so exactly which have added multiple zeroes to their wealth in the last year and a half?  Or if you're retreating to power rather than wealth, how exactly are you quantifying that?
  • Brie
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    I'm going to ignore all the silly slapping at each other going on here and just say that if Barclays ignored a warning from the FCA about Binance then they would very likely be setting themselves up for a big problem.  And frankly I heard about the restrictions on cryptocurrency trading from RBS first and then Barclays.  Not that I do any trading in cryptos, I like my investments to be a bit more solidly real.

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  • Scottex99
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    lozzy1965 said:
    Scottex99 said:
    Mje2020 said:

    I have never heard of a bank blocking payments to a specific company. Does anybody have examples of this happening before?
    Yes, it happens all the time. Western banks will not make payments to companies who have sanctions against them, for example, or who are known to be fraudulent.

    As others have said, now that banks keep being on the hook for things they had nothing to do with they are far more careful.

    If you want to deal with banks who are less concerned about the risk then a Russian or Somali one would probably let you do whatever you want.
    Plenty of regulated crypto friendly banks in the UK/EU, we send Ms through some of ours every day.

    On the point of the OP, it's our money, we should be able to send it wherever we want assuming we shoulder the responsibility of losing it. But Barclays are a business too and can set their own rules so i'm not 100% against the decision either.
    Not if we are sending it to a terrorist organisation or some other criminal organisation we shouldn't.
    Bit of a jump from Binance to Al-Qaeda
  • lozzy1965
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    Scottex99 said:
    lozzy1965 said:
    Scottex99 said:
    Mje2020 said:

    I have never heard of a bank blocking payments to a specific company. Does anybody have examples of this happening before?
    Yes, it happens all the time. Western banks will not make payments to companies who have sanctions against them, for example, or who are known to be fraudulent.

    As others have said, now that banks keep being on the hook for things they had nothing to do with they are far more careful.

    If you want to deal with banks who are less concerned about the risk then a Russian or Somali one would probably let you do whatever you want.
    Plenty of regulated crypto friendly banks in the UK/EU, we send Ms through some of ours every day.

    On the point of the OP, it's our money, we should be able to send it wherever we want assuming we shoulder the responsibility of losing it. But Barclays are a business too and can set their own rules so i'm not 100% against the decision either.
    Not if we are sending it to a terrorist organisation or some other criminal organisation we shouldn't.
    Bit of a jump from Binance to Al-Qaeda
    Ha ha true.  Or maybe not if the reason Binance have been dumped by Barclays is that they can't demonstrate suitable controls and checks.  My comment was more aimed at your "we should be able to send it wherever we want" comment, rather than specifically Binance :)
  • Type_45
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    lozzy1965 said:
    Type_45 said:

    What is happening is a massive power and money grab by the people who rule the world.  ie, the tech giants, big pharma, numerous billionaires, supra-national organisations (IMF, UN, EU etc) and the national governments (who in reality are puppets who only last a few years).

    And whilst all of the above are richer and/or more powerful now by orders of magnitude than they were before Covid, you'll notice that ordinary people are poorer, less free and suffering.  

    But you probably don't see it that way because you get your information from the media organisations which the people getting richer own.  

    If you can't see you are being played then you brainwashing and propaganda has worked on you.


    Do you think it's a coincidence that Google became a pharmaceutical company in 2019...  and were at the time funding the Covid researchers working in Wuhan who allowed the virus to escape...  and who's profits then rose 162% during lockdowns....   and all the while they are in complete control of what people see when they "google" for what's going on?


    If you can't see that you are being played, and that this is all about power and money, and that the billions of ordinary people are nothing more than a commodity for the 1% then I really can't help you.
    Ever heard of David Icke?  You'd like him.
    Yes, and I do like him. 
  • Type_45
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    eskbanker said:
    Type_45 said:
    What is happening is a massive power and money grab by the people who rule the world.  ie, the tech giants, big pharma, numerous billionaires, supra-national organisations (IMF, UN, EU etc) and the national governments (who in reality are puppets who only last a few years).

    And whilst all of the above are richer and/or more powerful now by orders of magnitude than they were before Covid [...]
    Orders (plural) of magnitude means at least a multiple of a hundred, so exactly which have added multiple zeroes to their wealth in the last year and a half?  Or if you're retreating to power rather than wealth, how exactly are you quantifying that?
    That's not what it means. It means by 10, not 100.

    "The world's 2,365 billionaires enjoyed a $4 trillion boost to their wealth during the first year of the pandemic, increasing their fortunes by 54%"

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/billionaire-wealth-covid-pandemic-12-trillion-jeff-bezos-wealth-tax/

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