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HICBC Landmark Case could result in Refunds for 100's of thousand of victims

Looks like we could be in line for full refunds.  I fall into this category as I'm sure lots of others too.

https://ifamagazine.com/article/hundreds-of-thousands-of-taxpayers-to-benefit-as-hmrc-loses-landmark-case-challenging-high-income-child-benefit-charge/

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  • ams006
    ams006 Posts: 4 Newbie
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    Yep I saw this yesterday too. What great news. I fall into this category also and it would be great to get a refund. 
    Is there any further news on HMRC actually issuing the refunds seeing as they lost the case?
  • Dazed_and_C0nfused
    Dazed_and_C0nfused Posts: 19,416 Forumite
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    I think a (retrospective) change to the tax legislation is more likely than refunds of HICBC that was due.
  • markgul
    markgul Posts: 4 Newbie
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    It would be very unfair to not make any refunds, I also fall into this category and they backdated it by 4 years
  • markgul
    markgul Posts: 4 Newbie
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    Has anyone called HMRC to find out if a refund is now due?
  • sheramber
    sheramber Posts: 24,735 Forumite
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    Those affected are those who did not fill in a self assessment return for the years in question. Instead HMRC raised an assessment for an assumed amount received.

    If you completed a self assessment return and were assessed on that basis then you are one of the people affected.

    It is possible for HMRC to now proceed under a different legislation to recover the money originally raised under the discovery assessments so don't spend any money yet.
  • nickfezz
    nickfezz Posts: 50 Forumite
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    I have just contacted HMRC regarding this.  I have been told that all cases are temporarily suspended for 30 days whilst HMRC calculate a response to the judgement.

    I have been told to write to them stating that I request full reimbursement of all money taken via the "discovery assessment" vehicle.

    If there is even the slightest chance of me having my money returned (£9,000.00) then i want to be 1st in the queue.

  • Momanns
    Momanns Posts: 153 Forumite
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    Am I misunderstanding this...if people have completed annual assessments and paid the (wholly unfair & disproportionate) charge on time then tough, but people who didn't pay it and subsequently had to repay for years legitimately owed may have grounds to reclaim money from HRMC?


  • kuratowski
    kuratowski Posts: 1,415 Forumite
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    It's like sheramber said.
    The tribunal ruled that:
    • A taxpayer who failed to pay HICBC had not paid the right amount of tax; but
    • HMRC used the wrong powers to demand that money; but
    • HMRC has other powers available that they can use instead; and
    • HMRC has 20 years to pursue the underpaid tax.
    https://www.rossmartin.co.uk/sme-tax-news/5606-hicbc-is-not-income-under-the-discovery-rules
    So, I don't think a refunds are likely at all.
  • I biust found this in the news. Seems like I'm late to the party. Has there been any response from Martin Lewis? I'm sure a template is being produced. I'll be overstated to see your this progresses
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