Is it worth buying a new energy efficient cooker?

greyteam1959

@clanger66
An aside that might help financially.
You say you are disabled.
Is your husband / partner able to claim Carer's Allowance to assist you ??

grumbler

greyteam1959 said:

The rating plate will be a small plate somewhere on your dehumidifier that tells you how much electric it will use.

Might be 2.5 kw or more.

2.5kW is power and very high for a dehumifier, not energy.

2.5kWh per day?

Davesnave

goldfinches said:

clanger66 said:

So as soon as we get up in the morning the windows are open. and of course, in summer clothes are dried outside. we have a shower which does make a lot of steam but it has an extractor fan fitted and we have a window in the bathroom although I seem to be the only one who showers with the window open! Teenagers often forget this stuff . One of the bedrooms does not have window at all just a French door and so this is difficult to vent at night, I am looking at having a vent put in the wooden frame. The extractor for the bathroom shower is not great to be honest but must do something I guess, it was replaced a few years ago. I think that the fact that the house has double glazing and concrete floors is probably to blame as like I said it is only three showers at day.

Is it possible for you to take some exterior and interior photos of your house for the expert damp commenters such as Doozer girl and FreeBear to have a look at to see if they can spot anything on those? Very often people post questions about damp on here with photos and get lots of helpful advice on how to solve the problem, here's an example of the kind of thing I mean. Rising Damp — MoneySavingExpert Forum

I'm suggesting this course as I'm otherwise stumped for helpful suggestions to make but if this isn't something you feel comfortable doing ignore me and keep posting for others to chime in. 

The construction of the bungalow will have a major impact. Only a few weeks back a friend brought me details of a 'lovely' one she hoped to offer on. The spar-dashed asbestos panels and wood frame would have been a nightmare to heat or insulate.

That said, we bought a conventionally constructed 1970s bungalow which had after-market vents through the walls in the bedrooms and bathrooms which looked decidedly red-flaggish! We dispensed with them all in due course, just putting extractors in the usual places, and 12 years on we're still wondering why they were there. Yeah I know, 'lifestyle differences,' but we dry washing indoors too and we breathe!

twopenny

Showering for 6 mins and 3people.
Kettle boiling how often. That's a biggie for electric. Is itoften and boiling more than you need? Thinking teens.
Boiling stuff on the stove top. Do you have an extractor for the steam?
Steam iron even if there's a lot.
Drying washing.
Windows not open at night.
All adds up.
Comiserations on your selfish neighbours. I had some like that.
Now I just have a paper delivery by car, radio blaring, slamming doors and wheelies on gravel outside my bedroom. 

clanger66

TELLIT01 said:

A heater airer is going to create a lot of humidity and that is probably much of the reason the dehumidifier is required so much.  Combine the cost of running both and that will be a large proportion of the bill.  The OP does need to investigate ways of ventilating the property, or at least the room where the heated airer is used.

Hi , yes I see what you're saying but we bought the heated airer to cut the cost of using the tumble dryer thinking this would be cheaper to run

clanger66

goldfinches said:

clanger66 said:

So as soon as we get up in the morning the windows are open. and of course, in summer clothes are dried outside. we have a shower which does make a lot of steam but it has an extractor fan fitted and we have a window in the bathroom although I seem to be the only one who showers with the window open! Teenagers often forget this stuff . One of the bedrooms does not have window at all just a French door and so this is difficult to vent at night, I am looking at having a vent put in the wooden frame. The extractor for the bathroom shower is not great to be honest but must do something I guess, it was replaced a few years ago. I think that the fact that the house has double glazing and concrete floors is probably to blame as like I said it is only three showers at day.

Hi clanger66, I would not have thought that three showers a day would create such an overwhelming problem as you described in your original post. Looking back at your previous messages I can see you've done the sensible thing of going round the house switching everything off as well. 

Is it possible for you to take some exterior and interior photos of your house for the expert damp commenters such as Doozer girl and FreeBear to have a look at to see if they can spot anything on those? Very often people post questions about damp on here with photos and get lots of helpful advice on how to solve the problem, here's an example of the kind of thing I mean. Rising Damp — MoneySavingExpert Forum

I'm suggesting this course as I'm otherwise stumped for helpful suggestions to make but if this isn't something you feel comfortable doing ignore me and keep posting for others to chime in. 

Hi, there is not so much to see, a bit of black mould here and there but it is more the smell of mould if the dehumidifier is not used. We had cavity wall insulation done a few years back and it seemed to make things worse condensation wise. But thank you for the link I will definitely take a look at that. We had a "damp expert" come in and he said it was condensation and recommended putting external vent bricks in the outside wall, I then read up about this and people were saying it made it worse. So we never got round to it as we were not sure if it was the right thing to do. The mould is worse in the colder side of the house

clanger66

twopenny said:

Showering for 6 mins and 3people.
Kettle boiling how often. That's a biggie for electric. Is itoften and boiling more than you need? Thinking teens.
Boiling stuff on the stove top. Do you have an extractor for the steam?
Steam iron even if there's a lot.
Drying washing.
Windows not open at night.
All adds up.
Comiserations on your selfish neighbours. I had some like that.
Now I just have a paper delivery by car, radio blaring, slamming doors and wheelies on gravel outside my bedroom. 

Hi , yeah we have an extractor over the cooker for steam, etc. That is very old as well but I think it works ok. We hardly ever iron! I just hang stuff to dry on hangers if it is a shirt etc. I certainly don't shower for 6 mins usually unless washing hair and I don't like hot showers but my husband likes the shower very hot, looks like a flipping Turkish bath after he has been in during the colder weather! Oh dear, no paper/boys girls on bikes anymore?

clanger66

Davesnave said:

goldfinches said:

clanger66 said:

So as soon as we get up in the morning the windows are open. and of course, in summer clothes are dried outside. we have a shower which does make a lot of steam but it has an extractor fan fitted and we have a window in the bathroom although I seem to be the only one who showers with the window open! Teenagers often forget this stuff . One of the bedrooms does not have window at all just a French door and so this is difficult to vent at night, I am looking at having a vent put in the wooden frame. The extractor for the bathroom shower is not great to be honest but must do something I guess, it was replaced a few years ago. I think that the fact that the house has double glazing and concrete floors is probably to blame as like I said it is only three showers at day.

Is it possible for you to take some exterior and interior photos of your house for the expert damp commenters such as Doozer girl and FreeBear to have a look at to see if they can spot anything on those? Very often people post questions about damp on here with photos and get lots of helpful advice on how to solve the problem, here's an example of the kind of thing I mean. Rising Damp — MoneySavingExpert Forum

I'm suggesting this course as I'm otherwise stumped for helpful suggestions to make but if this isn't something you feel comfortable doing ignore me and keep posting for others to chime in. 

The construction of the bungalow will have a major impact. Only a few weeks back a friend brought me details of a 'lovely' one she hoped to offer on. The spar-dashed asbestos panels and wood frame would have been a nightmare to heat or insulate.

That said, we bought a conventionally constructed 1970s bungalow which had after-market vents through the walls in the bedrooms and bathrooms which looked decidedly red-flaggish! We dispensed with them all in due course, just putting extractors in the usual places, and 12 years on we're still wondering why they were there. Yeah I know, 'lifestyle differences,' but we dry washing indoors too and we breathe!

Hi, I am very interested in what you have to say regarding extractor fans, other than the bathroom where else have you installed them?

Someone else asked if the shower extractor had a delay timer on it after it is turned off, it does I think for maybe 5 mins but the guy who installed it said it could be adjusted to shorter or longer.

To be honest and I feel a bit stupid saying this, he did not do exactly what I wanted him to do. I was pretty sure I had explained it but this is why you need a detailed quote, isn't it? I couldn't be bothered at the time as I was unwell to argue or say anything and thought it might do the trick as it was at least more powerful than the last one.

There was already a light with an extractor built into it over the shower, and I had wanted the light left there but another larger extractor put in separately. I will post photos later. The fan sounds a lot more powerful and noisy but the bathroom is still filled with steam when my husband has a hot shower in the winter.we had previously had the dehumidifier located in the kitchen where I dry the washing but kept getting mould in the bedrooms, so relocated it to the hallway in centre of the house. This has helped with the mould.

clanger66

sorry, an update the shower fan stays on for 13 minutes, we have timed it

clanger66

greyteam1959 said:

@clanger66
The rating plate will be a small plate somewhere on your dehumidifier that tells you how much electric it will use.
Might be 2.5 kw or more.
Find it & tell us what it says & we can work out how much it costs you per day.
Does your shower fan have a over run timer ??
By that I mean does it operate for 10 minutes or so after you turn the light off??
If not upgrade your fan to a fan with one.
That could cut out a lot of your condensation.
Also have a look at PIV ( positive input ventilation )
Google Nuaire Drimaster, cheap enough to buy & fit & very effective against condensation.

hi I cannot find anything on the dehumidifier itself, but the manual online says power consumtion 320W . Am just having a look at PIV website.