Small front door camera
Chickereeeee
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Can anyone recommend a small front door camera? I want one which is discreet, and eye-level to get a good view of the face. Why not Ring etc? Because 1) I have an existing, large 'fancy' 1920s push button that goes well with the house and want to carry on using and 2) I don't want my data going off to the cloud. I want the camera to be similar to cctv and record locally.
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There are a lot of options, but to help narrow down:
1. Do you want it to record when motion detected only or run a continuous recording? Do you want alerts for that motion?
2. Do you want to watch a live feed on your phone / PC or just review footage later?
3. Do you want to access the camera when away from home?
4. Night vision required?
5. Battery powered or wired? - Size will be be bigger if battery power needed.
6. Wired to network or wireless?
7. When you say record locally, some will record on to an inbuilt SD card and then you can access via wifi or are you thinking of a dedicated NVR (Network video recorder) where the video is stored on a hard disk?
8. What is you approx budget?
Note that if you go with the option of a camera with built in data storage like an SD card then your video images are less secure than the cloud, somebody can just physically steal the whole camera with footage included. Better to store to a dedicated device in your house (or the cloud but I know you've said you don't want that)
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tallmansix said:There are a lot of options, but to help narrow down:
1. Do you want it to record when motion detected only or run a continuous recording? Do you want alerts for that motion?
Motion detect. Option for alerts nice to have
2. Do you want to watch a live feed on your phone / PC or just review footage later?
Later is a must. Live is NTH.
3. Do you want to access the camera when away from home?
Preferably yes.
4. Night vision required?
Yes
5. Battery powered or wired? - Size will be be bigger if battery power needed.
Wired
6. Wired to network or wireless?
Wireless simpler, but wired not a show stopper
7. When you say record locally, some will record on to an inbuilt SD card and then you can access via wifi or are you thinking of a dedicated NVR (Network video recorder) where the video is stored on a hard disk?
Ideally, SD card AND NVR. Else, just NVR.
8. What is you approx budget?
Whatever, within reason.
Note that if you go with the option of a camera with built in data storage like an SD card then your video images are less secure than the cloud, somebody can just physically steal the whole camera with footage included. Better to store to a dedicated device in your house (or the cloud but I know you've said you don't want that)
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well it's wide angle, hd, night vision, plugs into your tv or into a laptop usb if you buy a cheap capture device. What did you plan to view the picture on ?0
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Chickereeeee said:tallmansix said:There are a lot of options, but to help narrow down:
1. Do you want it to record when motion detected only or run a continuous recording? Do you want alerts for that motion?
Motion detect. Option for alerts nice to have
2. Do you want to watch a live feed on your phone / PC or just review footage later?
Later is a must. Live is NTH.
3. Do you want to access the camera when away from home?
Preferably yes.
4. Night vision required?
Yes
5. Battery powered or wired? - Size will be be bigger if battery power needed.
Wired
6. Wired to network or wireless?
Wireless simpler, but wired not a show stopper
7. When you say record locally, some will record on to an inbuilt SD card and then you can access via wifi or are you thinking of a dedicated NVR (Network video recorder) where the video is stored on a hard disk?
Ideally, SD card AND NVR. Else, just NVR.
8. What is you approx budget?
Whatever, within reason.
Note that if you go with the option of a camera with built in data storage like an SD card then your video images are less secure than the cloud, somebody can just physically steal the whole camera with footage included. Better to store to a dedicated device in your house (or the cloud but I know you've said you don't want that)
Thanks
Hikvision 4 camera with NVR - this brand typically gets good ratings but a bit over the top for what you need.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B081F32ZT1
eufy 2 camera with NVR equivalent but camera is battery powered (1 year life) and wireless to make it easy to install
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hikvision-Vision-Outdoor-DVR-Security/dp/B0751KV47B/
The above are really pushing the budget up to the £200+ mark which is quite a lot but you do get a good set up and it doesn't come cheap to get NVR recording because you are adding a base station.
To be honest I'm struggling to find cheaper alternatives that match your requirements because so many of them use cloud based recording, it makes the devices cheaper - as soon as you want NVR you are in a different world price wise.
Also struggling with the small and eye level based.
Would you reconsider cloud based? I use the Ring ecosystem for my doorbell and security cameras and love it - all the cloud based data is encrypted and secure, probably more secure than having the recordings on an NVR at home which requires you to open up ports in your router to access the footage away from home?
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Thanks for the attempt. The trouble with the cameras that you suggest is that they are designed to be wall/ceiling mounted. Which means either they are mounted high (not a good view of the face, especially if visitor has, say, peaked cap or hood on). Or they are mounted low and a rather obtrusive.What I really want is a Ring which talks to a PVR, and DOESN'T have a button, I think!0
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RumRat said:This does what you want.....https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01JJ42U9G/ref=emc_b_5_i
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Thanks but - no proximity sensor, no connection to network.
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Chickereeeee said:Thanks for the attempt. The trouble with the cameras that you suggest is that they are designed to be wall/ceiling mounted. Which means either they are mounted high (not a good view of the face, especially if visitor has, say, peaked cap or hood on). Or they are mounted low and a rather obtrusive.What I really want is a Ring which talks to a PVR, and DOESN'T have a button, I think!
The thing with NVR recording security cameras is that they are aimed at being proper security and you don't mount a proper security camera at face level normally because the camera should ideally be out of reach for tampering with. Also NVR cameras will be bigger and bulkier than a doorbell style, no need to make them so small when the camera itself is supposed to be visible as a deterrent.
As you say, there is a whole range of doorbell type cameras that operate at face level, but then they won't include and NVR and as you said you don't want the doorbell either.
With such specific requirements - I'm out, I can't find anything to match those exact requirements.
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