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Hearing upstairs neighbours urinating (2)
"I’m yet to do this as it still isn’t guaranteed to work. Acoustic consultant suggested I replace the neighbours toilet with a ‘german shelf toilet’ and install a rubber mat under the toilet."
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Matthew_Pollock said:
Also puzzling is that this sound is transmitted, and not other sounds. My upstairs neighbours can have a rave and be shouting to each other, and I will hardly hear them - but when they use the toilet, the sound is loud. It is puzzling that no accountical engineers have jumped into the discussion to comment on the problem, since it must be an extremely common issue in modern apartment buildings.
[Not an acoustic engineer]
Sound travels faster (/better) through solids than it does through air. If the toilet is attached solidly to the solid floor above a ceiling then there is a direct path for the sound waves generated by the liquid stream hitting the solid surface of the toilet pan. So more of the sound energy will reach the room below. The same effect would apply to other direct-path things like dropping an object on the floor, or banging on a kitchen worktop.
Sounds such as talking or music exist primarily in the air in the room. Some of that sound energy will reach the floor and then have a solid path through to the room below, but the dispersal of the sound energy within the room above means there is less to pass through the floor.
Sound frequency is also a factor, as different frequencies have greater or lesser ability to pass through different materials. Then there are resonant frequencies where the sound frequency hits the sweet spot to make other objects vibrate at their natural frequency.
The cure is either to remove or reduce the sound source (a different type of toilet, or get the men to sit down) and/or breaking the path of transmission (acoustic insulation or false ceilings etc)
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If they sit down to pee it'll be quieter and more accurate following a night on the beer. Maybe female students would be better.Sorry I don't mean to sound flippant and I hope you find a solution.0
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Did you have a question?
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Someone taking the .....?2
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Something of a toilety theme to postings today
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Do you have any control over the upstairs flat at all? If not, I really don't see that there is anything you can do..
Maybe asking them to sit when they urinate.. but that'd be a weird conversation 😕0 -
You could pay to fit a unrinal in the bathroom and see if they use that when it's just a No.1?Another option is to provide a huge supply of toilet paper and ask them to drop a few sheets in the bowl before peeing (will help 'dampen' the sound).Other than that the only option is paying for proper sound proofing measures or moving.0
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Gift the upstairs neighbours an inexhaustable supply of foaming cakes that go in the cistern. The suds in the pan have a muffling effect0
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Buy upstairs flat, empty it of tenants, leave it like that.0
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