LED Candle 60W light bulb

shazkhan111

I am looking for an halogen equivalent light bulb...I currently have lots of these... https://www.amazon.co.uk/Halogen-Candles-55W-60W-Classic-Dimmable/dp/B008H20AHG/ref=psdc_248788031_t2_B00CV11XRA - these are 630 lumen output.

Want to replace with equivalent LED dimmable bulbs. Please can anyone assist as all the ones i have seen have low lumen output.

debitcardmayhem

loook for 8w

[Deleted User]

A couple of examples below but can I say don't scrimp on LED bulbs if you enjoy the nice colour rendering from halogen bulbs, cheap ones can be disappointing.

Here's why you don't need to scrimp on buying cheap LED bulbs:

15,000 hours operating time costs compared per bulb:

Halogen: £15 in bulbs, £94.50 elec = £109.50
Assume £2 per bulb, 42 watts, 2000 hours lifespan, 15p elec per KWh

LED: £10 for one bulb, £18 elec = £28
Assume £10 per bulb, 8 watts, 15,000 hours lifespan 15 p elec per KWh

So you are saving £81.50 per bulb even if you spend a tenner on each one. You say you have a lot of these bulbs, say 12 for example, then you will save £978 over the lifetime of 12 bulbs.

These for example at £10 each but top quality light output 806 lumens
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Philips-Small-Edison-Dimmable-Candle/dp/B01KK14PKE/

You could get these at £4 per bulb saving you £1,050 over the lifetime 806 lumens
https://www.thelightbulb.co.uk/8watt-candle-led-ses-e14-small-screw-cap-opal-warm-white-equivalent-to-60watt-dimmable/


Can you see what I'm trying to say, save £978 or £1050 - just 7% different in lifetime cost of a £4 vs £10 bulb - no need to scrimp!

So somebody will come along and say you won't get the manufacturers claimed 15,000 hours out of an LED bulb, so let's halve it and say 7,500 hours. The £10 bulbs will save you £858 and the £4 bulbs will save you £1,002 instead.

I'm not trying to encourage you to overspend on an Money saving forum but just making the step from halogen to LED will save you so much that it is worth buying quality LED bulbs.

Both LED bulbs in the example above are 2700K colour temperature which is about the same as a typical halogen bulb at so they will be very similar nice warm light output unlike some LED bulbs that are 4000K - 6000K typically which can be quite stark and cold at the upper end.



Finally both are 806 lumens and even though that is more than your current 630 lumen, I guess it doesn't matter if you have them on a dimmer anyway.

Heedtheadvice

Excellent response......and helping to save the planet too -look at the difference in energy that is required to be purchased.

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Deleted_User said:

So somebody will come along and say you won't get the manufacturers claimed 15,000 hours out of an LED bulb, so let's halve it and say 7,500 hours. The £10 bulbs will save you £858 and the £4 bulbs will save you £1,002 instead.

You won't get 15000 hours out of an LED light bulb  - they are designed to fail, and they run hot too, too hot to touch around the base.

Have you heard of the Dubai Lamp?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klaJqofCsu4

To continue from the link above, there is this 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HTa2jVi_rc

So I visited toolstation, bought their wessex 9w led bulb pack. So looking at the second video my factory resistor is 20.2855 ohms for 9w. I swapped out the resistors as per 2nd video and put a 100ohm resistor in there, so is 1.8w, and that is still too bright for the hallway, and the whole light is running much cooler. Ideally I should have put a 120 (or more)  resistor into it, but I did not have one on hand.

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a said:

Deleted_User said:

So somebody will come along and say you won't get the manufacturers claimed 15,000 hours out of an LED bulb, so let's halve it and say 7,500 hours. The £10 bulbs will save you £858 and the £4 bulbs will save you £1,002 instead.

Have you heard of the Dubai Lamp?

Yep, I subscribe to BigClive and have watched that video before now which is why I anticipated such as comment. I've said on previous threads that a proper low voltage DC household supply is the best option to eliminate the need for 240v convertors sandwiched into the base of a lamp.

Limited life for bulbs is not a new thing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebus_cartel

Regardless, LED's are still the superior choice cost wise for home lighting if you buy a quality bulb. I've had cheap 50W LED flood lamps with just hundred of hours of use fail in 12 months so I'm acquainted with the problems with cheap LED lights.

However, OP said they run on a dimmer which will prolong life. All my LED bulbs are smart bulbs, wifi connected and controlled and spend most of their time running below full output.

ann_droid

My preference is International Lamps
https://internationallamps.co.uk/search-results/page/2/?parent_cat=131&sub_cat=135&wattage&voltage=1176&lumens&capfitting=1744&colourfinish&brands&filter=true

shazkhan111

Amazing response and advice - thank you @Tallmansix.

@ann_droid - thank you...anyone confirm that this bulb is genuine as considerable cheaper:

https://internationallamps.co.uk/product/philips-dimtone-ledcandle-dt-8-60w-e14-b38-cl-2200-2700k/

ann_droid

I did have an account with International Lamps, years ago, occasionally I still buy ad hoc, and I never have had a problem.

They have a phone number, that inspires faith surely.