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Claim Form, 2 contract breaches, own parking space, no permit displayed, Link Parking

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  • Fruitcake
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    Jenni_D said:
    Sorry - I was meaning this bit: Tenant refers to myself in definitions of my lease. Thus the line "The tenant must observe all regulations made by the Management Company from time to time relating to the parking of such vehicles." would apply to the OP rather than not (per your previous post)?

    Perhaps the OP can share the Definitions section of the lease?
    I don't know enough about this to fully understand the implications, but if it were me, I would still include it, and let a judge decide.
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  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 10 April 2022 at 2:51PM
    Same.

    I think most Judges would want to protect a lease rights.  The OP can use the relevant court transcript recently posted by @bargepole

    Does the clause say 'all regulations' or 'all REASONABLE regulations?  Leases usually say the latter.
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  • Elo88
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    It does say "all regulations" just as I worte before.

    From my lease definitions:

    "Tenant" means the party described as the Tenant in clause LR3 and includes the Tenant's successors in title and assigns.

    LR3 states the name of the person who originally bought the flat. I am their successor.

    Hence, I believe this applies to me.

    Nevertheless, my lease gives me right to park my vehicle in my allocated parking space and a right to quiet enjoyment, which I already included in my defence. MC hiring PC to bond me with a contract would be in contradiction to the rights given above. I have primacy of contract so that can't be done without a vote.

    This is my current understanding, as wel as Coupon-mad's.

    Wondering of what others think?
  • Elo88
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    Coupon-mad said:
    You have primacy of contract and your lease rights to park cannot be varied, interfered with or charged for, without express agreement by you and at least 75% of the other leaseholders.  As an extra exhibit, you can use the judgment posted the other day by @bargepole

    Is this the case where Link Parking issued 37 PCNs  to the same lad for parking on a private spot?

    His lease grants him 'unfettered right to park' - mine doesn't say unfettered and I have that clause about observing PM regulations.
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 10 April 2022 at 4:59PM
    No. Wasn't a Link case, it was a UKCPM case in March.  The  District Judge dismissed the Operator’s claim on the grounds that no variation of lease was agreed by at least 75% of the leaseholders, pursuant to Section 37 of the Landlord & Tenant Act 1987.

    Maybe @bargepole hasn't posted the judgment here yet.  I saw it off-forum.

    The word 'unfettered' is just an adjective used by the defence.  It never appears in a lease.
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  • Johnersh
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    There appears to be an absolute right to introduce regulation, but as is clear from Saeed v plustrade and montrose v shamash those regulations are not unlimited. It is a disingenuous statement. 

    In both of those, there was an entitlement to park, but not a demised bay.

    With a demised bay, a permit scheme effectively grants a third party a right to charge the o/p £100 per day for not displaying their permit. Inmho, that is a material change in the grant of the leasehold property. If the permit is restricted to a specific vehicle it also infringes other entitlements the o/p enjoyed - perhaps allowing his visitors/guests to park in that space etc. 

    The bay should not be used by anyone else, so it requires no management, whereas the roadways and visitor spaces may well do, beyond the usual regulations such as not to abandon cars etc. 
  • Boat_to_Bolivia
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    Fabulous, well done you had obviously put a lot of work into this. Thanks for the comprehensive report. Again, well done I bet you are buzzing :D
  • Fruitcake
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    Well done on your win, and thanks for the detailed court report.
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  • Le_Kirk
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    Good for you!  Do I understand that it was a preliminary hearing that first of all the judge said he would pass the findings on to the next hearing and then said the case was struck out?
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