We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

IMPORTANT: Please make sure your posts do not contain any personally identifiable information (both your own and that of others). When uploading images, please take care that you have redacted all personal information including number plates, reference numbers and QR codes (which may reveal vehicle information when scanned).
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Simple procedure Scotland

I had a number of PCN's a few years ago that I ignored in the hope they would go away. 2 weeks ago I received notice that I have a Simple Court procedure against me for over £1500 now! I am.looking for advice on how to fight this case.

Comments

  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 44,016 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    We've had very little experience of Scottish court cases, so we'll have little advice to give. I think there's a free legal advice service in Scotland, so a call to them would be your first step. 

    In addition, the LegalBeagles forum have a number of lawyer contributors inputting there, so that would possibly be a better bet than MSE. 

    Which parking company is involved in pursuing you?  How many tickets are in play?  Multiple tickets, even in Scotland, makes vulnerability to a court claim much more real. 

    You do know that as there is no Keeper Liability in Scotland, the PPC can only hold the driver liable, so no blabbing about the driver's identity!
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    #Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Jenni_D
    Jenni_D Posts: 5,487 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Fourth Anniversary Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited 17 June 2021 at 11:28AM
    Welcome back from your enforced absence, @Umkomaas :)

    @Eugenecrabs123 were the PCNs only ever sent as a Notice to Keeper, i.e. sent to you as the vehicle's registered keeper? And you've never responded to the parking company (assuming it's just the one) or debt collectors at all, ever?
    Are the PCNs in relation to a residential setting? (i.e. where you live).

    Parking companies will make noise about the Carly Mackie case in Scotland ... they're being disingenuous about this as that case involved an admitted driver; if their claims against you are as registered keeper then as said above they have a far higher hurdle to jump - they can only assume that the keeper was the driver, and would have to prove that (on the balance of probabilities) in court.
    Jenni x
  • Fruitcake
    Fruitcake Posts: 59,524 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    I am not sure whether or not the Act of Sederunt (Simple Procedure) 2016 works "on the balance of probabilities". I've only ever read it once, and that was a while ago.

    Act of Sederunt (Simple Procedure) 2016 (legislation.gov.uk)



    I married my cousin. I had to...
    I don't have a sister. :D
    All my screwdrivers are cordless.
    "You're Safety Is My Primary Concern Dear" - Laks
  • Jenni_D
    Jenni_D Posts: 5,487 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Fourth Anniversary Name Dropper Photogenic
    If BoP doesn't apply then that makes the claimant's challenge even harder, yes? :) 

    I've taken a quick look and Part 12: The hearing or Part 13: The decision would seem the logical places to look, but neither is decisive on this matter.
    Jenni x
  • D_P_Dance
    D_P_Dance Posts: 11,592 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Have you complained to your MP?
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 157,489 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Which parking firm and what were the circumstances of the PCNs, what sort of car park, why was the car there and what alleged breaches?

    But whatever happens, what we want you and everyone to do, is come back here (please) every week over the Summer and check for when the Government’s final Consultation gets released. 

    As said on every thread right now, we NEED people like you to have your say about Government policy re the level of parking charges to be applied next year onwards.

    THIS APPLIES IN SCOTLAND TOO.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 352.9K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.9K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454.7K Spending & Discounts
  • 246K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 602K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.8K Life & Family
  • 259.9K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.