What is going on with my Rose

Happy_Sloth

We have been living at our current home for 3 years and have a Pink rose Bush that looks like this...  Last year i was abit lazy and forgot to cut it back in autumn so it's gone abit mad this year.  

It's never looked any different....  This year for the first time we appear to be getting a different sort of flower (As well as the original)) 
At first i thought a second rose had somehow seeded it's self in the same location but ive followed the branch back and it's on the same Bush as the first rose and doesn't appear to be it's own plant.  The Second New stem does appear to be abit more of a climber as it's gone right up into the pear tree over 15 high working through the pear tree branches.  

I'm i going mad or is this a completely different variety of Rose?  Is it possible someone grafted the climber to the bush rose years ago and my pruning never let it grow?  So we've never seen it? 

25_Years_On

What you have is a dog rose. It may have established amongst the garden rose.

twopenny

What I can't see is where it's coming from.
Roses like yours are grafted onto a wild type rootstock. Sometimes it will throw up a branch from that. Most people just trim them off close to the old bark because they are stronger than the grafted one and will take over. It could be from the roots also.
If its coming from the ground away fyrom yours it's a seeded wild rose. Though that would normally be pink.

Happy_Sloth

Heres where it's coming from,  the Yellow X's are the normal Pink Rose,  the Red one seems to be the Dog rose.. 

Farway

Yep, it's a sucker of dog rose, as others say, remove it or it'll take over, being more robust they can't co exist with your posh rose and the posh on will gradually be stareved, weaken & die

If you like the dog rose once it's removed from the parent, take the flowers / buds off and most of the leaves and try to get it to root, my guess is it would root readily in water being tough wild stock

Happy_Sloth

Farway said:

Yep, it's a sucker of dog rose, as others say, remove it or it'll take over, being more robust they can't co exist with your posh rose and the posh on will gradually be stareved, weaken & die

If you like the dog rose once it's removed from the parent, take the flowers / buds off and most of the leaves and try to get it to root, my guess is it would root readily in water being tough wild stock

Dang thats a shame it's pretty! is there a best time to remove and try and root it? should i wait or do it straight away? 

25_Years_On

Happy_Sloth said:

Dang thats a shame it's pretty! is there a best time to remove and try and root it? should i wait or do it straight away? 

It won't flower for long. I do have dog roses around my patch one which has taken over a mainly dead elder and at the momment it looks great. In the garden they are more of a pest and are always coming up and spend nearly all the year leaving thorns in my fingers and not being in flower - they are much more spiny than garden roses. Same in my neighbours gardens. If you really want one just let this one go to seed and you'll be infested in no time. I'm all for wild plants in the garden but I think this is one to keep in the hedge and not in the border.

twopenny

August onwards is the best time to get stuff rooting.
The wild ones produce hips that you can make rosehip syrup from, full of vitamin C, just what you want for the winter. My grandmother used to make it every autumn and i used to sneak in and swig it from the bottle it was so delicious.
Just what's needed right now.