Someone want to buy us a house

LilacButterfly95

My partner has a friend he hasn’t known for very long however they get along very well had a few nights out together just a typical bromance anyway, one night they got to talking about work ect, the guy asked my partner his dream jobs ect as he worked in the army and missed the opportunity to get a trade and is now stuck in an office job, renting an over priced mould ridden 1bedroomed flat. Now based on that concersation my partners friend asked to meet him one afternoon and not only offered him £20,000 to learn a trade and start a business he has also offered to purchase him a £145,000 2 bedroomed house and put it in my partners name! We obviously rejected this and said there’s no way we could accept this generous offer.. turns out after a few google searches the guy is a multi millionaire in America who owns a million dollar business.. the guy has continued to offer to help us out and when we’ve asked why he’s doing it he simply said my life has revolved around my work so much I haven’t had a chance to have my own family life I have no one to spend the money on so if I can help a struggling family make ends meet and have the life they deserve then why shouldn’t I? 

Are we stupid to reject it? Their friendship has nothing to do with the money! But at the same time are we horrible people if we accept? I don’t know if my conscience would ever get over the fact this guy restarted and built our lives I don’t know if that’s something I can carry with me for the rest of my life!!

Grumpy_chap

LilacButterfly95 said:

My partner has a friend he hasn’t known for very long however they get along very well had a few nights out together just a typical bromance anyway, one night they got to talking about work ect, the guy asked my partner his dream jobs ect as he worked in the army and missed the opportunity to get a trade and is now stuck in an office job, renting an over priced mould ridden 1bedroomed flat. Now based on that concersation my partners friend asked to meet him one afternoon and not only offered him £20,000 to learn a trade and start a business he has also offered to purchase him a £145,000 2 bedroomed house and put it in my partners name! We obviously rejected this and said there’s no way we could accept this generous offer.. turns out after a few google searches the guy is a multi millionaire in America who owns a million dollar business.. the guy has continued to offer to help us out and when we’ve asked why he’s doing it he simply said my life has revolved around my work so much I haven’t had a chance to have my own family life I have no one to spend the money on so if I can help a struggling family make ends meet and have the life they deserve then why shouldn’t I? 

Are we stupid to reject it? Their friendship has nothing to do with the money! But at the same time are we horrible people if we accept? I don’t know if my conscience would ever get over the fact this guy restarted and built our lives I don’t know if that’s something I can carry with me for the rest of my life!!

Multi-millionaires don't get rich by randomly giving large sums to virtual strangers they just had a few drinks with.

How come this individual ended up in your local, given his being American and a global pandemic restricting travel?

LilacButterfly95

Grumpy_chap said:

LilacButterfly95 said:

My partner has a friend he hasn’t known for very long however they get along very well had a few nights out together just a typical bromance anyway, one night they got to talking about work ect, the guy asked my partner his dream jobs ect as he worked in the army and missed the opportunity to get a trade and is now stuck in an office job, renting an over priced mould ridden 1bedroomed flat. Now based on that concersation my partners friend asked to meet him one afternoon and not only offered him £20,000 to learn a trade and start a business he has also offered to purchase him a £145,000 2 bedroomed house and put it in my partners name! We obviously rejected this and said there’s no way we could accept this generous offer.. turns out after a few google searches the guy is a multi millionaire in America who owns a million dollar business.. the guy has continued to offer to help us out and when we’ve asked why he’s doing it he simply said my life has revolved around my work so much I haven’t had a chance to have my own family life I have no one to spend the money on so if I can help a struggling family make ends meet and have the life they deserve then why shouldn’t I? 

Are we stupid to reject it? Their friendship has nothing to do with the money! But at the same time are we horrible people if we accept? I don’t know if my conscience would ever get over the fact this guy restarted and built our lives I don’t know if that’s something I can carry with me for the rest of my life!!

Multi-millionaires don't get rich by randomly giving large sums to virtual strangers they just had a few drinks with.

How come this individual ended up in your local, given his being American and a global pandemic restricting travel?

He travels to the UK often as he has a lot of Clients here, his company is marketing communications.. which we’ve found all the details of and it’s all legit.. but like you said I’m struggling to get my head round why he would offer this are they really people out there that are genuinely this kind? 

Like I said myself and my partner had no idea about his wealth and never even questioned it until he offered us this.

LilacButterfly95

Just to add to that he’s also prewritten a contract for my partner that state the money is purely gifted and that at no point is any repayments expected signed and everything.

Barny1979

LilacButterfly95 said:

Just to add to that he’s also prewritten a contract for my partner that state the money is purely gifted and that at no point is any repayments expected signed and everything.

Why would someone waste time and money on a contract/agreement before seeing if the other party is interested?

LilacButterfly95

Barny1979 said:

LilacButterfly95 said:

Just to add to that he’s also prewritten a contract for my partner that state the money is purely gifted and that at no point is any repayments expected signed and everything.

Why would someone waste time and money on a contract/agreement before seeing if the other party is interested?

This was after my partner rejected as he said he would never be able to repay him.. and we were both unsure if it was a scam

Grumpy_chap

LilacButterfly95 said:

He travels to the UK often as he has a lot of Clients here, his company is marketing communications.. 

I ask again, how many times has this multi-millionaire American travelled to the UK on business trip during the past 18-months?  There has been a global pandemic, I assume you noticed.  IF the company required someone to travel and have all the hassle of restrictions and forced hotel quarantine, is this something a multi-millionaire would do in person, or would he send a lackey from his business empire?

Is it plausible that this multi-millionaire American marketing magnate would end up in the local where your partner drinks?

How do you know this is the multi-millionaire American, not just someone who found his name on a search engine and, being similar age and build, blags it as him for whatever reason?  If this is not the true multi-millionaire marketing magnate, how will you ever know?  It's not as though you are off to the USA for a meet is it?

IF you took this money, this person will own you both.  What do you do when asked to carry something to help out, or swallow some packets to deliver to Malaysia?  
It will be really like this:

You were working in an office with a mouldy flat
When I met you
I picked you out, I shook you up
And turned you around
Turned you into someone new
Now five years later on you've got the world at your feet
Success has been so easy for you
But don't forget it's me who put you where you are now
And I can put you back down too.

Don't. Don't you want me?
You know I can't believe it when I hear that you won't see me
Don't. Don't you want me?
You know I don't believe you when you say that you don't need me

It's much too late to find
When you think you've changed your mind
You'd better change it back or we will both be sorry

Don't you want me, baby?
Don't you want me? Oh!
Don't you want me, baby?
Don't you want me? Oh!

Really, if you are going to make it, then you know you'll find a much better place either with or without American multi-millionaire marketing magnate.

Finally, I ask again, who ever got rich by giving chunks of money away to virtual strangers?

LilacButterfly95

Grumpy_chap said:

LilacButterfly95 said:

He travels to the UK often as he has a lot of Clients here, his company is marketing communications.. 

I ask again, how many times has this multi-millionaire American travelled to the UK on business trip during the past 18-months?  There has been a global pandemic, I assume you noticed.  IF the company required someone to travel and have all the hassle of restrictions and forced hotel quarantine, is this something a multi-millionaire would do in person, or would he send a lackey from his business empire?

Is it plausible that this multi-millionaire American marketing magnate would end up in the local where your partner drinks?

How do you know this is the multi-millionaire American, not just someone who found his name on a search engine and, being similar age and build, blags it as him for whatever reason?  If this is not the true multi-millionaire marketing magnate, how will you ever know?  It's not as though you are off to the USA for a meet is it?

IF you took this money, this person will own you both.  What do you do when asked to carry something to help out, or swallow some packets to deliver to Malaysia?  
It will be really like this:

You were working in an office with a mouldy flat
When I met you
I picked you out, I shook you up
And turned you around
Turned you into someone new
Now five years later on you've got the world at your feet
Success has been so easy for you
But don't forget it's me who put you where you are now
And I can put you back down too.

Don't. Don't you want me?
You know I can't believe it when I hear that you won't see me
Don't. Don't you want me?
You know I don't believe you when you say that you don't need me

It's much too late to find
When you think you've changed your mind
You'd better change it back or we will both be sorry

Don't you want me, baby?
Don't you want me? Oh!
Don't you want me, baby?
Don't you want me? Oh!

Really, if you are going to make it, then you know you'll find a much better place either with or without American multi-millionaire marketing magnate.

Finally, I ask again, who ever got rich by giving chunks of money away to virtual strangers?

This is my concern.. I have two young children and I don’t want anything to impact them never mind us owing our lives to a man we barely know.. 

they met as he’s been staying in a hotel near to my parners work.. he just happened to be at the bar opposite the hotel he’s staying in, that my partner likes to go to after work, 

we found his linked in profile which matches everything his saying the photo is him showing on it and the company website shows that he is the owner with picture of him and staff, it appears there are only a few staff members.. and from what he’s said they all travel all over the world for their clients I don’t know the full ins and outs of his job..

ive said to my partner that if we accepted this we would owe him our lives and I don’t know if I could ever live with that.. everyone else around us has told us we are fools if we don’t accept it.. but my conscience is stopping us as I don’t understand why someone would do this 

pjcox2005

It's a unusual situation but you can set what you feel comfortable with.
My thoughts:
- I expect it's not all or nothing so if really not comfortable take the money for a trade or settle on a house deposit perhaps.
- You don't owe anyone anything for a gift and be strong in mind about that - sure be thankful but talk of owing our lives is overblowing it for yourself. Work out a way of placing it in your own minds and boundaries you'll draw a line around. If they legally gift it then you take it and can say no to anything else - think people are getting ahead of themselves if you think that "debt" requires you to be a drugs mule! You can always report that to the police if no doesn't work.
- Take your time and do more research on the guy. Could always ignore if for now, let friendship grow and then bring it up when there is more trust.
- Yes be skeptical, but I think those who make it to the top should push the ladder back down for others. It's unusual, but helping others out, particularly when it won't impact their wealth, is the right thing to do and someone shouldn't feel bad for taking help/support.

Grumpy_chap

LilacButterfly95 said:

we found his linked in profile which matches everything his saying the photo is him showing on it and the company website shows that he is the owner with picture of him and staff, it appears there are only a few staff members.. 

Oh, that's good.
I assume you can also look into all the other philanthropic acts this man has done - he is a marketing magnate after all so will want to capitalise the value of such benevolence.
Does the company data support a multi-millionaire marketing magnate?

LilacButterfly95

Grumpy_chap said:

LilacButterfly95 said:

we found his linked in profile which matches everything his saying the photo is him showing on it and the company website shows that he is the owner with picture of him and staff, it appears there are only a few staff members.. 

Oh, that's good.
I assume you can also look into all the other philanthropic acts this man has done - he is a marketing magnate after all so will want to capitalise the value of such benevolence.
Does the company data support a multi-millionaire marketing magnate?

I’m really sorry I’m not sure what you mean by marketing magnate?