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Service strip

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  • 1flop
    1flop Posts: 4 Newbie
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    You can clearly see where it’s been built forward and as a result he has extended the line ‘stealing’ my land. I am awaiting council decision before my own civil action to reduce costs 
  • Grumpy_chap
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    1flop said:
    In pic you can see the gate but this has been built forward of boundary you can see dark fence to right rear of gate. My deeds extent to past the lamp post
    Thanks, but I am still unclear who owns what.  Can you provide a plan?

    Who built the dropped kerb to the new gate (I assume that is the gate with the turf piled Infront)?
    Was that area plants before?
  • Robin9
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    The phot may be deceptive but it looks like the windows face immediately onto the dark fence.

    Next to the manhole there is a concrete strip. Is this the end of the adopted road ? ie the tarmac to the left is someones access drive.
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  • GDB2222
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    It's hard to tell from the photo, but the gates appear to be in line with the other house's brick garden wall to the right of the photo?

    If the land is, indeed, yours, this is nothing to do with the council. If planning permission has been obtained, that has nothing to do with it, as anyone can get planning permission on any land, without owning it. I am not even at all convinced planning is needed for the gates. It is therefore highly unlikely that the council will take action. 

    Does your house insurance include legal protection?

    Before doing anything else, could I suggest that you get a surveyor to measure what's on the ground and compare it with your property title. If the gates are built on your land, you may be able to get a court to order that they are removed. If the land with the dropped kerb is yours, AND the other house does not have a right of way over that bit, you can build a barrier stopping access or even dismantle the gates. But, you will need expert advice, not a group of anonymous strangers on the internet. 
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  • Grumpy_chap
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    Robin9 said:
    The phot may be deceptive but it looks like the windows face immediately onto the dark fence.

    Next to the manhole there is a concrete strip. Is this the end of the adopted road ? ie the tarmac to the left is someones access drive.
    I agree, this does look deceptive.

    If I was describing this from the photo only I would say that the Council Road is from the right (past the camper van, white car, lamp post and red car) up to the concrete strip across the road near the manhole.  Possibly the red car parked in the turning head - hard to say as the side is cut off from view.  Then the part to the left beyond the manhole and with the different shade of tarmac possibly private ownership.
    If that is correct, then the Council are at liberty to allow and construct the crossover and the access that has been, even if that makes for less planting.

    That is all rather a guess though.  It is quite possible that the main access is from the left and then the road beyond the concrete strip to the right is private.

    Which house is the OPs?
    The OP says their deeds extend to past the lamppost.  From which direction?

    If the OP owns the house from which the photo has been taken and all the road up to past the lamp post, then that could mean the OP owns the area where the crossover has been constructed.
  • sheramber
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    Who planted on the verges and looks after them?
    Do you own the land shown from the right hand side of the photo to the fence on the left hand side or just to the edge of the tarmac?
    Presumably the fence shown is on the boundary of the house with the gates. Who owns the fence?
    You say your boundary goes down to the lamp post. Who owns the bit below the lamp post to the road?

  • anselld
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    1flop said:
    You can clearly see where it’s been built forward and as a result he has extended the line ‘stealing’ my land. I am awaiting council decision before my own civil action to reduce costs 
    The gate seems to be in line with the fence to the left.   Are you saying the whole lot including the fence has been built forward or was the fence already there?
  • Flugelhorn
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    Robin9 said:
    The phot may be deceptive but it looks like the windows face immediately onto the dark fence.

    Next to the manhole there is a concrete strip. Is this the end of the adopted road ? ie the tarmac to the left is someones access drive.
    I agree, this does look deceptive.



    Which house is the OPs?
    The OP says their deeds extend to past the lamppost.  From which direction?

    If the OP owns the house from which the photo has been taken and all the road up to past the lamp post, then that could mean the OP owns the area where the crossover has been constructed.
    OP stated that gates were at the bottom of his steep drive so presumably the house from which the photo was taken
  • teachfast
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    It's all rather unclear, isn't it?
  • princeofpounds
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    teachfast said:
    It's all rather unclear, isn't it?
    LOL yes... I would love to pitch in on this thread as I suspect it's a fairly simple situation at its root. We need to see a clear plan, with the property boundaries marked out, the adopted road marked out, and the rights of way over the 'service strip' clearly explained.

    Unfortunately it seems like the OP isn't yet capable of providing that.
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