Job ands sick

drmakeyouwell

Hello all ,
Looking 4 some advice on my situation with work. Had incident with old work colleague 18 mths and was given a management instruction . I thought the Union were brilliant and made my bosses look like idiots I’m my disciplinary. I got management instruction on my file . The lady didn’t come back to work . Mainly as she lied a lot on her statement etc. Recently , I feel my boss is going for me with seemingly petty things . I walked off site and have been signed off with stress around 2
/3 mths ago..I went for interview as want to get out of the place . It
so toxic I cannot stand it . I feel I may have another job ( in same area - teaching assistant ) , but I am really scared the new school (if I get job ) will find out and withdraw my offer if I get it later this week . Any help anyone can give would help my worrying. Thanks

mrlegend123

they will find out and have second thoughts about you. Schools are normally linked by authorities. 

moneysavinghero

No point worry about it. Either they find out or they don't. Worrying wont change that. As it's a teaching job working with children i would imagine their vetting processes would be quite strong.

74jax

drmakeyouwell said:

Hello all ,
Looking 4 some advice on my situation with work. Had incident with old work colleague 18 mths and was given a management instruction . I thought the Union were brilliant and made my bosses look like idiots I’m my disciplinary. 
It doesn't really matter how they were made to look in your eyes, this won't be recorded anywhere.  Just the outcome.
I got management instruction on my file .
The lady didn’t come back to work . Mainly as she lied a lot on her statement etc.
I'm not sure what you mean about this, if she left under gross misconduct then it doesn't really affect you, your disciplinary went ok, so that's really all that matters.
Recently , I feel my boss is going for me with seemingly petty things . I walked off site and have been signed off with stress around 2/3 mths ago..I went for interview as want to get out of the place . It so toxic I cannot stand it .
I feel I may have another job ( in same area - teaching assistant ) , but I am really scared the new school (if I get job ) will find out and withdraw my offer if I get it later this week . Any help anyone can give would help my worrying. Thanks

Points in bold above, and ....
I would expect a school to school convo will take place.  Especially if within the same LA or neighbouring. 
Your current employer shouldn't bring up someone else's disciplinary outcome with another school - there is no reason too even refer to the other lady.

Undervalued

74jax said:

drmakeyouwell said:

Hello all ,
Looking 4 some advice on my situation with work. Had incident with old work colleague 18 mths and was given a management instruction . I thought the Union were brilliant and made my bosses look like idiots I’m my disciplinary. 
It doesn't really matter how they were made to look in your eyes, this won't be recorded anywhere.  Just the outcome.
I got management instruction on my file .
The lady didn’t come back to work . Mainly as she lied a lot on her statement etc.
I'm not sure what you mean about this, if she left under gross misconduct then it doesn't really affect you, your disciplinary went ok, so that's really all that matters.
Recently , I feel my boss is going for me with seemingly petty things . I walked off site and have been signed off with stress around 2/3 mths ago..I went for interview as want to get out of the place . It so toxic I cannot stand it .
I feel I may have another job ( in same area - teaching assistant ) , but I am really scared the new school (if I get job ) will find out and withdraw my offer if I get it later this week . Any help anyone can give would help my worrying. Thanks

Points in bold above, and ....
I would expect a school to school convo will take place.  Especially if within the same LA or neighbouring. 
Your current employer shouldn't bring up someone else's disciplinary outcome with another school - there is no reason too even refer to the other lady.

"Shouldn't" - Why so and in who's opinion?
They are quite entitled to do so and arguably should do.
Equally "walking off site" could also be a disciplinary matter. There may well be mitigating circumstances but unless the matter has been fully investigated......

74jax

Undervalued said:

74jax said:

drmakeyouwell said:

Hello all ,
Looking 4 some advice on my situation with work. Had incident with old work colleague 18 mths and was given a management instruction . I thought the Union were brilliant and made my bosses look like idiots I’m my disciplinary. 
It doesn't really matter how they were made to look in your eyes, this won't be recorded anywhere.  Just the outcome.
I got management instruction on my file .
The lady didn’t come back to work . Mainly as she lied a lot on her statement etc.
I'm not sure what you mean about this, if she left under gross misconduct then it doesn't really affect you, your disciplinary went ok, so that's really all that matters.
Recently , I feel my boss is going for me with seemingly petty things . I walked off site and have been signed off with stress around 2/3 mths ago..I went for interview as want to get out of the place . It so toxic I cannot stand it .
I feel I may have another job ( in same area - teaching assistant ) , but I am really scared the new school (if I get job ) will find out and withdraw my offer if I get it later this week . Any help anyone can give would help my worrying. Thanks

Points in bold above, and ....
I would expect a school to school convo will take place.  Especially if within the same LA or neighbouring. 
Your current employer shouldn't bring up someone else's disciplinary outcome with another school - there is no reason too even refer to the other lady.

"Shouldn't" - Why so and in who's opinion?
They are quite entitled to do so and arguably should do.
Equally "walking off site" could also be a disciplinary matter. There may well be mitigating circumstances but unless the matter has been fully investigated......

Its nothing to do with the other school.

The new school will phone up for a reference regarding the op. I can see no reason whatsoever for the old school to then inform the person asking for a reference about someone else. No reason at all.
'yes we had an investigation with who you want to employ but we didn't didn't discipline them, we disciplined someone else who turned out to be lying and no longer works for us'...... Seriously will not happen. 

Undervalued

74jax said:

Undervalued said:

74jax said:

drmakeyouwell said:

Hello all ,
Looking 4 some advice on my situation with work. Had incident with old work colleague 18 mths and was given a management instruction . I thought the Union were brilliant and made my bosses look like idiots I’m my disciplinary. 
It doesn't really matter how they were made to look in your eyes, this won't be recorded anywhere.  Just the outcome.
I got management instruction on my file .
The lady didn’t come back to work . Mainly as she lied a lot on her statement etc.
I'm not sure what you mean about this, if she left under gross misconduct then it doesn't really affect you, your disciplinary went ok, so that's really all that matters.
Recently , I feel my boss is going for me with seemingly petty things . I walked off site and have been signed off with stress around 2/3 mths ago..I went for interview as want to get out of the place . It so toxic I cannot stand it .
I feel I may have another job ( in same area - teaching assistant ) , but I am really scared the new school (if I get job ) will find out and withdraw my offer if I get it later this week . Any help anyone can give would help my worrying. Thanks

Points in bold above, and ....
I would expect a school to school convo will take place.  Especially if within the same LA or neighbouring. 
Your current employer shouldn't bring up someone else's disciplinary outcome with another school - there is no reason too even refer to the other lady.

"Shouldn't" - Why so and in who's opinion?
They are quite entitled to do so and arguably should do.
Equally "walking off site" could also be a disciplinary matter. There may well be mitigating circumstances but unless the matter has been fully investigated......

Its nothing to do with the other school.

The new school will phone up for a reference regarding the op. I can see no reason whatsoever for the old school to then inform the person asking for a reference about someone else. No reason at all.
'yes we had an investigation with who you want to employ but we didn't didn't discipline them, we disciplined someone else who turned out to be lying and no longer works for us'...... Seriously will not happen. 

But as I read the OP they were disciplined?

I thought the Union were brilliant and made my bosses look like idiots I’m my disciplinary. I got management instruction on my file

Surely "a management instruction on my file" is a disciplinary sanction, albeit a fairly minor one?

74jax

Undervalued said:

74jax said:

Undervalued said:

74jax said:

drmakeyouwell said:

Hello all ,
Looking 4 some advice on my situation with work. Had incident with old work colleague 18 mths and was given a management instruction . I thought the Union were brilliant and made my bosses look like idiots I’m my disciplinary. 
It doesn't really matter how they were made to look in your eyes, this won't be recorded anywhere.  Just the outcome.
I got management instruction on my file .
The lady didn’t come back to work . Mainly as she lied a lot on her statement etc.
I'm not sure what you mean about this, if she left under gross misconduct then it doesn't really affect you, your disciplinary went ok, so that's really all that matters.
Recently , I feel my boss is going for me with seemingly petty things . I walked off site and have been signed off with stress around 2/3 mths ago..I went for interview as want to get out of the place . It so toxic I cannot stand it .
I feel I may have another job ( in same area - teaching assistant ) , but I am really scared the new school (if I get job ) will find out and withdraw my offer if I get it later this week . Any help anyone can give would help my worrying. Thanks

Points in bold above, and ....
I would expect a school to school convo will take place.  Especially if within the same LA or neighbouring. 
Your current employer shouldn't bring up someone else's disciplinary outcome with another school - there is no reason too even refer to the other lady.

"Shouldn't" - Why so and in who's opinion?
They are quite entitled to do so and arguably should do.
Equally "walking off site" could also be a disciplinary matter. There may well be mitigating circumstances but unless the matter has been fully investigated......

Its nothing to do with the other school.

The new school will phone up for a reference regarding the op. I can see no reason whatsoever for the old school to then inform the person asking for a reference about someone else. No reason at all.
'yes we had an investigation with who you want to employ but we didn't didn't discipline them, we disciplined someone else who turned out to be lying and no longer works for us'...... Seriously will not happen. 

But as I read the OP they were disciplined?

I thought the Union were brilliant and made my bosses look like idiots I’m my disciplinary. I got management instruction on my file

Surely "a management instruction on my file" is a disciplinary sanction, albeit a fairly minor one?

I honestly do not believe the other ladies situation has anything to do with it and do not believe the fact the other lady lied and now no longer works there is of any relevance and should not (and I still believe 'should not' to be right) be brought up with the new school. It has no relevance at all.
So I stand by Your current employer shouldn't bring up someone else's disciplinary outcome with another school - there is no reason too even refer to the other lady.

Undervalued

74jax said:

Undervalued said:

74jax said:

Undervalued said:

74jax said:

drmakeyouwell said:

Hello all ,
Looking 4 some advice on my situation with work. Had incident with old work colleague 18 mths and was given a management instruction . I thought the Union were brilliant and made my bosses look like idiots I’m my disciplinary. 
It doesn't really matter how they were made to look in your eyes, this won't be recorded anywhere.  Just the outcome.
I got management instruction on my file .
The lady didn’t come back to work . Mainly as she lied a lot on her statement etc.
I'm not sure what you mean about this, if she left under gross misconduct then it doesn't really affect you, your disciplinary went ok, so that's really all that matters.
Recently , I feel my boss is going for me with seemingly petty things . I walked off site and have been signed off with stress around 2/3 mths ago..I went for interview as want to get out of the place . It so toxic I cannot stand it .
I feel I may have another job ( in same area - teaching assistant ) , but I am really scared the new school (if I get job ) will find out and withdraw my offer if I get it later this week . Any help anyone can give would help my worrying. Thanks

Points in bold above, and ....
I would expect a school to school convo will take place.  Especially if within the same LA or neighbouring. 
Your current employer shouldn't bring up someone else's disciplinary outcome with another school - there is no reason too even refer to the other lady.

"Shouldn't" - Why so and in who's opinion?
They are quite entitled to do so and arguably should do.
Equally "walking off site" could also be a disciplinary matter. There may well be mitigating circumstances but unless the matter has been fully investigated......

Its nothing to do with the other school.

The new school will phone up for a reference regarding the op. I can see no reason whatsoever for the old school to then inform the person asking for a reference about someone else. No reason at all.
'yes we had an investigation with who you want to employ but we didn't didn't discipline them, we disciplined someone else who turned out to be lying and no longer works for us'...... Seriously will not happen. 

But as I read the OP they were disciplined?

I thought the Union were brilliant and made my bosses look like idiots I’m my disciplinary. I got management instruction on my file

Surely "a management instruction on my file" is a disciplinary sanction, albeit a fairly minor one?

I honestly do not believe the other ladies situation has anything to do with it and do not believe the fact the other lady lied and now no longer works there is of any relevance and should not (and I still believe 'should not' to be right) be brought up with the new school. It has no relevance at all.
So I stand by Your current employer shouldn't bring up someone else's disciplinary outcome with another school - there is no reason too even refer to the other lady.

Well I'm sorry but I think you are reading the OP completely wrong.

As I read it, the OP received a minor disciplinary sanction (a formal management instruction recorded on the OP's file). 

I can't see where there is any mention of the (other) "lady" being disciplined. The OP claims this lady "lied a lot...". Maybe she did but despite (or maybe because) of the efforts of the union rep the OP got away with a slap on the wrist.

I assume you are reading it as this other lady being disciplined and maybe even dismissed (as she apparently "didn't come back"). Maybe, but I don't think we know that.

74jax

Undervalued said:

74jax said:

Undervalued said:

74jax said:

Undervalued said:

74jax said:

drmakeyouwell said:

Hello all ,
Looking 4 some advice on my situation with work. Had incident with old work colleague 18 mths and was given a management instruction . I thought the Union were brilliant and made my bosses look like idiots I’m my disciplinary. 
It doesn't really matter how they were made to look in your eyes, this won't be recorded anywhere.  Just the outcome.
I got management instruction on my file .
The lady didn’t come back to work . Mainly as she lied a lot on her statement etc.
I'm not sure what you mean about this, if she left under gross misconduct then it doesn't really affect you, your disciplinary went ok, so that's really all that matters.
Recently , I feel my boss is going for me with seemingly petty things . I walked off site and have been signed off with stress around 2/3 mths ago..I went for interview as want to get out of the place . It so toxic I cannot stand it .
I feel I may have another job ( in same area - teaching assistant ) , but I am really scared the new school (if I get job ) will find out and withdraw my offer if I get it later this week . Any help anyone can give would help my worrying. Thanks

Points in bold above, and ....
I would expect a school to school convo will take place.  Especially if within the same LA or neighbouring. 
Your current employer shouldn't bring up someone else's disciplinary outcome with another school - there is no reason too even refer to the other lady.

"Shouldn't" - Why so and in who's opinion?
They are quite entitled to do so and arguably should do.
Equally "walking off site" could also be a disciplinary matter. There may well be mitigating circumstances but unless the matter has been fully investigated......

Its nothing to do with the other school.

The new school will phone up for a reference regarding the op. I can see no reason whatsoever for the old school to then inform the person asking for a reference about someone else. No reason at all.
'yes we had an investigation with who you want to employ but we didn't didn't discipline them, we disciplined someone else who turned out to be lying and no longer works for us'...... Seriously will not happen. 

But as I read the OP they were disciplined?

I thought the Union were brilliant and made my bosses look like idiots I’m my disciplinary. I got management instruction on my file

Surely "a management instruction on my file" is a disciplinary sanction, albeit a fairly minor one?

I honestly do not believe the other ladies situation has anything to do with it and do not believe the fact the other lady lied and now no longer works there is of any relevance and should not (and I still believe 'should not' to be right) be brought up with the new school. It has no relevance at all.
So I stand by Your current employer shouldn't bring up someone else's disciplinary outcome with another school - there is no reason too even refer to the other lady.

Well I'm sorry but I think you are reading the OP completely wrong.

As I read it, the OP received a minor disciplinary sanction (a formal management instruction recorded on the OP's file). 

I can't see where there is any mention of the (other) "lady" being disciplined. The OP claims this lady "lied a lot...". Maybe she did but despite (or maybe because) of the efforts of the union rep the OP got away with a slap on the wrist.

I assume you are reading it as this other lady being disciplined and maybe even dismissed (as she apparently "didn't come back"). Maybe, but I don't think we know that.

No worries, I think I'm even lost with what I am reading anyway.  Would help is the OP came back and clarified why the other lady is even mentioned.

I think I did read the OP wrong, but I read it as - work place toxic, something happened, OP was disciplined, other lady was too and then it turned out the other lady was lying (I have no idea why the OP was told this as it seems very private but hey-ho), then the other lady never came back to work.  

The OP then asked if the other school would find out - never said find out what exactly so I only went on what they had given in their post.  I replied (as I believe it) the new school will speak to the old school so yes I'd expect a convo to happen - about the OP only.  BUT I doubt the lady (not the op) would be discussed because why would she be.  I only mentioned the other lady because this was a specific topic the OP mentioned.  Maybe the OP is worried the new school will think they had got someone fired, I have no idea, but as the other lady was brought up by the OP I thought they must consider it relevant, but maybe not.......

Marcon

drmakeyouwell said:

Hello all ,
Looking 4 some advice on my situation with work. Had incident with old work colleague 18 mths and was given a management instruction . I thought the Union were brilliant and made my bosses look like idiots I’m my disciplinary. I got management instruction on my file . The lady didn’t come back to work . Mainly as she lied a lot on her statement etc. Recently , I feel my boss is going for me with seemingly petty things . I walked off site and have been signed off with stress around 2
/3 mths ago..I went for interview as want to get out of the place . It
so toxic I cannot stand it . I feel I may have another job ( in same area - teaching assistant ) , but I am really scared the new school (if I get job ) will find out and withdraw my offer if I get it later this week . Any help anyone can give would help my worrying. Thanks

Unfortunately nobody can help your worrying - but if you have an otherwise excellent track record with your current employer, a minor disciplinary warning (if that's what it was) won't necessarily stop you getting the new job. Given that the title of your thread is 'job ands sick' [sic], have you had a lot of sickness absence?