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  • CPPLUS26
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    Redx said:
    V8 of the latest BPA CoP from 2020 is what you should read about compliance
    Thank you, I read this but it doesn't refer to anything to do with ensuring machines are operational and accessible etc or non operational machine issues etc. 
  • Redx
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    CPPLUS26 said:
    Redx said:
    V8 of the latest BPA CoP from 2020 is what you should read about compliance
    Thank you, I read this but it doesn't refer to anything to do with ensuring machines are operational and accessible etc or non operational machine issues etc. 
    Then it's ambiguous and possibly not relevant

    The usual case is that if you cannot abide by the terms of a contract , you walk away from the contract (leave)
  • Coupon-mad
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    That is a PCS Notice to Keeper issued on the creditor's behalf, which is probably why it has POFA wording.  I doubt CP Plus have a para 8 version of a NTK hence why they farmed that out to a third party.
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  • Dizzyflop
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    CPPLUS26 said:
    What would the MP or Local paper do though? If CPPLUS have in fact been contracted to facilitate "fines" in the event that people don't pay for parking on the hospital ground, what is the issue? 
    Well, my MP for one, has specifically written to the parking company telling them to cancel the charge. 
    He holds more punching power than little old me.

  • D_P_Dance
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    What would the MP or Local paper do though? If CPPLUS have in fact been contracted to facilitate "fines" in the event that people don't pay for parking on the hospital ground, what is the issue? 

    My MP passed my complaint to a Minister, the complaint was quickly resolved  Other MPs may do other things . Local papers may publish, they may not.

    CPPLUS have in fact been contracted to facilitate "fines" in the event that people don't pay for parking on the hospital ground, what is the issue? 

     The issue is that these "fines" are in fact a scam and will l soon be regulated by HMG.


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  • Umkomaas
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    That is a PCS Notice to Keeper issued on the creditor's behalf, which is probably why it has POFA wording.  I doubt CP Plus have a para 8 version of a NTK hence why they farmed that out to a third party.
    There's a copy of it in the opening post. It's a NtK sent in their own name (but with PCS named for payment and appeals). I also earlier commented that they seem to have, finally, got the keeper warning - 8(2)(f) - right!  But maybe it's PCS who've got that 'right' for them. 

    I find it strange that they've farmed this out to PCS.  Also, given the amalgamation under Group Nexus (whose name is now all over the rash of HV and CPP claims being scattered everywhere), there is no mention of their name on this very recent NtK. 
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • Castle
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    Umkomaas said:
    That is a PCS Notice to Keeper issued on the creditor's behalf, which is probably why it has POFA wording.  I doubt CP Plus have a para 8 version of a NTK hence why they farmed that out to a third party.
    There's a copy of it in the opening post. It's a NtK sent in their own name (but with PCS named for payment and appeals). I also earlier commented that they seem to have, finally, got the keeper warning - 8(2)(f) - right!  But maybe it's PCS who've got that 'right' for them. 

    I find it strange that they've farmed this out to PCS.  Also, given the amalgamation under Group Nexus (whose name is now all over the rash of HV and CPP claims being scattered everywhere), there is no mention of their name on this very recent NtK. 
    Even that's questionable because their warning states its 29 days from the date given which is presumed to be the second working day after the date issued;  well, the only date issued on the NTK is 23rd March, which take us to 23rd April and the same day the NTK was actually posted.
  • Umkomaas
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    Castle said:
    Umkomaas said:
    That is a PCS Notice to Keeper issued on the creditor's behalf, which is probably why it has POFA wording.  I doubt CP Plus have a para 8 version of a NTK hence why they farmed that out to a third party.
    There's a copy of it in the opening post. It's a NtK sent in their own name (but with PCS named for payment and appeals). I also earlier commented that they seem to have, finally, got the keeper warning - 8(2)(f) - right!  But maybe it's PCS who've got that 'right' for them. 

    I find it strange that they've farmed this out to PCS.  Also, given the amalgamation under Group Nexus (whose name is now all over the rash of HV and CPP claims being scattered everywhere), there is no mention of their name on this very recent NtK. 
    Even that's questionable because their warning states its 29 days from the date given which is presumed to be the second working day after the date issued;  well, the only date issued on the NTK is 23rd March, which take us to 23rd April and the same day the NTK was actually posted.
    But they will be working from the date of sending the NtK (23/04/21) 'Date of sending of this notice'  -  because PoFA states 'on which the notice to keeper is given' (not the notice to driver).  Have I missed something fundamental, or are you taking literally their term 'PCN Date of Issue', which was the date of the NtD?
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Coupon-mad
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    Umkomaas said:
    That is a PCS Notice to Keeper issued on the creditor's behalf, which is probably why it has POFA wording.  I doubt CP Plus have a para 8 version of a NTK hence why they farmed that out to a third party.
    There's a copy of it in the opening post. It's a NtK sent in their own name (but with PCS named for payment and appeals). I also earlier commented that they seem to have, finally, got the keeper warning - 8(2)(f) - right!  But maybe it's PCS who've got that 'right' for them. 

    I find it strange that they've farmed this out to PCS.  
    Honestly I reckon they are not set up to operate with windscreen PCNs and para 8 NTKs, as we almost never see them from Group Nexus.
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  • Castle
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    Umkomaas said:

    But they will be working from the date of sending the NtK (23/04/21) 'Date of sending of this notice'  -  because PoFA states 'on which the notice to keeper is given' (not the notice to driver).  Have I missed something fundamental, or are you taking literally their term 'PCN Date of Issue', which was the date of the NtD?
    Yes; literally.  :)
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