How much per hour for a cleaner

Mojisola

jon81uk said:

Apodemus said:

yksi said:

Then consider what you're asking for. Scrubbing the kitchen and bathroom and giving the floor a sweep is one thing, but if you expect them to wash up and pick up your 2yo's toys, then you won't get a happy & reliable cleaner on the bare minimum.

Really?  Why would picking up toys be a worse job than scrubbing a toilet?

It just adds time and complications. Scrubbing the floor and toilet are predictable, its the same job at every house. But if you pick up toys to be able to scrub the floor you need to know which box to put the toys in and take time and care with them, it just makes the task more complcated I expect so its probably worth paying more for someone to take more care.

I always make sure our house is tidied so that our cleaner can just zip through and clean.

She also has some clients who leave a mess and she has to clear the breakfast things, make beds, tidy up toys and clothes, etc, before getting down to any cleaning - those clients pay for more hours and a higher rate per hour.

TELLIT01

cattie said:

TELLIT01 said:

cattie said:

It's around £15 per hour where I live too, but personally think it's too high as most independent people live local & are not declaring earnings, so tax free.

Do you know that for a fact or simply making assumptions?

No assumptions, I have a couple of friends who do cleaning to supplement their income, one on benefits & also by the cleaner I used to have who was honest about not declaring income from her little cleaning jobs. Plus a couple of my elderly neighbours have cleaners who are paid cash in hand.

There is a big difference between claiming most cleaners are tax cheats and knowing a couple of people on the fiddle.

GDB2222

Doozergirl said:

I pay £12 but he hasn't raised the price on me in over 5 years. 

I think £8.74 would be more of an employed wage, not one for someone who the overheads of being self employed.  

The interesting question is whether your cleaner truly is self-employed? Does he choose his hours of work and bring his own cleaning materials and equipment? Thought not, so he probably isn't self-employed!

This is all being tied down by the courts, very slowly, starting with Uber, Pimlico Plumbing, and Deliveroo, and eventually filtering down to Doozergirl and GDB2222. Of course, this is total lunacy in practice. The amount of effort involved in running a PAYE scheme for a cleaner who does 3 hours a week is utterly disproportionate, and I expect that HMRC could not possibly cope if everyone did things properly.

All I can suggest is to lobby your MP. 

theonlywayisup

You don't need to lobby your MP.  Appoint a self employed cleaner.  Mine is self employed and I pay her Agency for the workers (albeit the same ones).  We pay £17 p/h for holiday lets (4 hour turnaround top to toe) and for private cleaning.  We receive an invoice, with VAT (as they are VAT registered).  No issues here at all with anything 'being tied down' by anyone. It's well and truly water tight and correct. 

silvercar

cattie said:

TELLIT01 said:

cattie said:

It's around £15 per hour where I live too, but personally think it's too high as most independent people live local & are not declaring earnings, so tax free.

Do you know that for a fact or simply making assumptions?

No assumptions, I have a couple of friends who do cleaning to supplement their income, one on benefits & also by the cleaner I used to have who was honest about not declaring income from her little cleaning jobs. Plus a couple of my elderly neighbours have cleaners who are paid cash in hand.

Honest about not declaring income to you, but not honest enough to declare it to the taxman?