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Parking Ticket after paying by Phone

Hi All, looking for advice after reading the Newbie thread and searching the forum.
I purchased a paper ticket to park my car at a car park monitored by spring parking and stuck it in the window of the vehicle. After finding that the ticket I'd bought wouldn't cover the whole of our intended stay and having no more change, I bought an additional ticket through my paybyphone account.
I left the original ticket in the window, and when I returned I had been issued a parking ticket because the paper ticket had expired.
I have appealed to spring parking and provided evidence that we had paid for a whole days parking through paybyphone, but they have rejected the appeal and provided a POPLA number.
My question really is am I missing something? Have I shot my self in the foot by displaying an expired ticket, or are they just trying it on? Is it worth writing a full appeal as advised here or are POPLA likely to find in my favour on the basis that I had bought a second valid ticket?
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  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    Write a full Popla appeal , provide evidence of payment , let Popla decide ( plan C )

    You have already done plan B , the appeal to Spring

    So what happened to plan A ??
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 44,210 Forumite
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    Let's have a look at a redacted copy of the Notice to Keeper (both sides), but, importantly, leave all the dates showing. 
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    #Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 159,254 Forumite
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    Did you admit to being the driver by ticking a box on the appeals page or blabbing abiut who parked, in the actual appeal?  Or did you say ''we'' and NOT tick any drop-down menu choice as 'driver'?
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  • Redx said:
    Write a full Popla appeal , provide evidence of payment , let Popla decide ( plan C )

    You have already done plan B , the appeal to Spring

    So what happened to plan A ??
    I'm trying to determine who the landowner is (I believe it may be a charitable trust) and will then write to explain the circumstances.
    Umkomaas said:
    Let's have a look at a redacted copy of the Notice to Keeper (both sides), but, importantly, leave all the dates showing. 
    I don't have a NTK yet, naively I thought that Spring Parking would treat me reasonably when I wrote to them to appeal and provide evidence of a valid ticket.
  • D_P_Dance
    D_P_Dance Posts: 11,593 Forumite
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    Have you complained to Trading Standards and/or your MP?
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    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Did you admit to being the driver by ticking a box on the appeals page or blabbing abiut who parked, in the actual appeal?  Or did you say ''we'' and NOT tick any drop-down menu choice as 'driver'?
    No, fortunately I didn't admit to who was driving
  • Redx
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    Good , so get on with plans A & C 👍👍
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 44,210 Forumite
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    edited 12 May 2021 at 8:59AM
    I'm trying to determine who the landowner is (I believe it may be a charitable trust) and will then write to explain the circumstances.
    SOME IDEAS ON DETERMINING WHO OWNS THE LAND 
    ©️Umkomaas 02/21 !! 🤓

    1. Google searches
    2. If a retail park, check on any signage which lists the on-site outlets
    3. Ask retailers on the site if there is a managing agent
    4. Ask retailers on the site to whom do they pay rent
    5. Contact the local authority and ask who pays the non-domestic/business rate for the car park (some councils have a spreadsheet on their website)
    6. Contact the local Valuation Office and ask if they know. They often have a website which might provide the information 
    7. Contact The Land Registry and for around £3 they should be able to provide definitive detail
    8. Give us the name of the car park, we may have seen other cases there. 
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    #Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Le_Kirk
    Le_Kirk Posts: 25,892 Forumite
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    Umkomaas said:
    SOME IDEAS ON DETERMINING WHO OWNS THE LAND 
    ©️Umkomaas 02/21 !! 🤓
    Love it!  
  • D_P_Dance
    D_P_Dance Posts: 11,593 Forumite
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    Indeed, I do not know why people do mot go to google for this stuff..  
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
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